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violinistgal
I will want to know how to get started to play sonatas, concertos,etc. by Bach,etc.

I am preparing for Grade 5 violin exam next year, Grade 5, is it sufficient to play the works of the composers?
AmandaL
A realistic answer is:

Some of the easier movements from the Handel or Schubert sonatas are approachable from about Grade 5/6 onwards, but if you are thinking more of Bach, Beethoven, Brahms etc, then to be really honest, you are looking at Grade 8+

Concertos by Beethoven, Brahms et al. are Diploma level, but movements from the the A minor concerto by Bach have appeared on the Grade 8 syllabus.
fsharpminor
You might manage a couple of the movements in the Dvorak Sonatina in G Op100 at Grade 6 ish
Andromeda_Aiken
Not forgetting the 1st movement of Vivaldi's Concerto in A minor! biggrin.gif
Teigr
QUOTE(Andromeda_Aiken @ Dec 18 2007, 04:14 PM) *

Not forgetting the 1st movement of Vivaldi's Concerto in A minor! biggrin.gif


Op.3 No. 6, RV 356?

T.
The Tradge
QUOTE(violinistgal @ Dec 18 2007, 02:30 AM) *

I will want to know how to get started to play sonatas, concertos,etc. by Bach,etc.

I am preparing for Grade 5 violin exam next year, Grade 5, is it sufficient to play the works of the composers?


Yeah as it's been said already, that if you're talking about Brahms, Beethoven, Saint-Saens, etc then you really have to be grade 8+ standard, but there are some sonatas that can be approached by grade 5 - 6 students. I don't know loads about violin repertoire, but I do know that it's more than likely that a concerto will be diploma standard
violinistgal
Diploma Level?sad.gif

I still have a long way to go..

Anyway, so , what violin books can a Grade 5 violin student buy for practise?

thanx for the above replies!!~ blush.gif
bohemian
Look into Baroque composers like Telemann, Corelli, Vivaldi, Bach, Haydn etc. Often there are easier sonatas and even concerti by them which you woud be able to look at within a year or two. But things like Beethoven, Bruch, Mendelssohn should be reserved for at least 3 years after most people take grade 8. I don't know about you but when I was taking grade 5 I practiced maybe 30 minutes a day, well some of these big Romantic concerti take longer than that to play through once...
The Tradge
Well it won't necessarily take AGES, I mean about 2 and a half years ago I was grade 6 standard, and now I'm working on diploma repertoire smile.gif
violin111
I'm doing my grade 5 next year as well. I like the Suzuki violin books, I'm not sure what grade some of the pieces are but from book 5 onwards, it's quite hard! I've been working on a few pieces on book 4 and 5. But I mostly work on violin techiqnue books.
Meiangie
There is an easy concerto by O Riedling - violin concerto in B minor. At grade 3, you could already try the 1st movement which is only in 1st position.
fayewolf
QUOTE(Meiangie @ Jan 19 2008, 09:37 AM) *

There is an easy concerto by O Riedling - violin concerto in B minor. At grade 3, you could already try the 1st movement which is only in 1st position.



I know this is an old thread. But I love this Rieding Concerto B Minor, all three movements!
Perlman has a recording of it, it's amazing he can make a simple piece so good.

Also, Seitz Concerto, there are a few, and I can't remember what key they are in, but they are in suzuki book 4. I think Suzuki book 4 is about grade 4-5ish, they have the seitz concert, Bach double violin concerto, and the famous vivaldi a minor. Very nice pieces.

It's funny when i used to play the piano, (just for a few years), i never get to learn any concerto, i wonder if they even have easier student concertos like violin!
maya3
The Vivaldi in A minor is grade 4/5
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musical_K
As I think someone already said, baroque sonatas/concerti are generally easier than the big romantic ones.

I did a Mozart sonata for grade 7 but i know there are others by him that are easier, so maybe have a look at that smile.gif
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