QUOTE(Flossie @ Mar 6 2012, 08:24 PM)

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QUOTE(Clari Nicki1 @ Mar 5 2012, 08:08 PM)

I think I'm probably the calmer of the two of us..... I do sometimes hold on to my seat with nerves! Today, I've had a lovely morning in Lyme Regis with OH, and I'm loving the blossom and the sun! And I've finished teaching for the day, and my lessons went well!
Have you tried to get daughter to talk about what is going on, potential hazards and how to deal with them? It's a fairly well known advanced driving technique and also used when someone firsts starts competition driving (albeit in a different manner).
Could possibly aid concentration? And help your nerves to perhaps realise daughter is concentrating on the road ahead? Ahead being the key point.
I couldn't agree more with this, commentary driving is a very useful tool in the assessors armoury, and you being the assessor at the time need to know what is going on in the head of the driver

Hmm. I don't agree, unless she's already been learning for a while and is fairly proficient.

I think people are forgetting just how much concentration the driving can take for a learner who isn't a natural at it (or else if you are people who learnt very easily you may never have experienced the same demands on concentration with driving). As a learner, I wouldn't have been able to think about both the driving and the talking at the same time. Advanced driving techniques are what their name suggests - techniques developed by established drivers who already have experience and a basic competency in driving. I don't think that advanced driving techniques or those used in competitions are generally the most appropriate approaches for someone in the early stages of learning.
I can see both points of view here. On the one hand driving requires (or should require) total concentration on the job in hand. It is very demanding having to think not only about the road ahead, but also looking out for hazards, not just in your own path, but 360 degrees around the car, whilst also thinking about gear changes, mirrors, indicating and predicting what other road users are about to do. (Oh, and I nearly forgot, watching the speedometer at all times is far more important than any of the above.

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On the other hand, it is very useful to know what the learner driver is seeing and thinking, (and what they are not seeing and thinking), even if they are not up to giving a full running commentary.
I think most young learners are surprised by just how demanding and tiring it is to drive properly, and they soon realise why they might have been told to shut up in the car whilst mum or dad was negotiating a tricky roundabout!
Now that our eldest is learning to drive I often make a point of giving a running commentary myself when I am driving, so that he can see what I am seeing, and can learn to identify potential hazards himself. That way he can understand why I might slow down or take some precautionary action that he might not otherwise have noticed.
One point which I feel is particularly important, (and which doesn't seem to be taught by driving instructors) is to position the car correctly on the road. Good road positioning is essential for safe driving, and actually provides a faster and smoother line through bends. It also allows the driver to see hazards, or to be seen by others when they would not otherwise have been seen.
As an example, I was surprised by how closely our son drove to cars parked along a fairly street. When I asked him why he told me that his driving instructor had instructed him to stay on the left-hand side of the white line at al times if possible, even if there was nothing coming the other way, (and that he would fail his test if he drove down the middle of the road). But that is exactly what I would do; because if nothing was coming the other way I would want to be well clear of opening doors, and would want to be able to see children or pedestrians standing between parked cars. I don't think white lines are hurt by driving over them, but pedestrians certainly are!
SB