hello_cello
Feb 14 2008, 10:00 PM
Hey there guys

i want to learn a a new instruments, a brass one hopefully, but im not sure what i want to do. i really like the trombone, because i think it would be good for playing jazz / blues being able to slide it and all that, and more fun than most other brass instruments. i really dont want to learn french horn.
Thanks

so who voted for the serpent.... :@
lol
Sergeant_Chronos
Feb 14 2008, 11:58 PM
QUOTE(hello_cello @ Feb 14 2008, 04:00 PM)

Hey there guys
i want to learn a a new instruments, a brass one hopefully, but im not sure what i want to do. i really like the trombone, because i think it would be good for playing jazz / blues being able to slide it and all that, and more fun than most other brass instruments. i really dont want to learn french horn.
Thanks
so who voted for the serpent.... :@
lol
Play Trombone if you like it, don't play it because its an jazz instrument though. Pick an instrument you know you like because of the sound, you can usually find music you like after that.
hello_cello
Feb 15 2008, 12:10 AM
well the jazz part was a bonus, i just think its interesting / cool. but i lkinda like the tuba, because its not as common as the otheres (i think) and would be great, because no one else at school plays it, i could play it in the orchestra without feeling really bad at it! then again i guess its the same with the trombone
oh god a stalmate!
sarah123
Feb 15 2008, 12:13 AM
Play the french horn
hello_cello
Feb 15 2008, 12:17 AM
oh god no not the french horn!!
*Throws up all over a french horn shop*
Roseau
Feb 15 2008, 09:00 AM
QUOTE(hello_cello @ Feb 15 2008, 01:10 AM)

well the jazz part was a bonus, i just think its interesting / cool. but i lkinda like the tuba, because its not as common as the otheres (i think) and would be great, because no one else at school plays it, i could play it in the orchestra without feeling really bad at it! then again i guess its the same with the trombone
oh god a stalmate!
Can you try both tuba and trombone and then make up your mind? My daughter's teacher teaches both and at the beginning of the year he had a new pupil who already played the piano, wanted to learn an orchestral instrument and was hesitating between the tuba and the trombone. The boy spent about a month trying out both in lessons (and just taking a mouth piece home to practise on) and eventually opted for tuba.
My daughter learns the trombone and one of the things which attracted her was the slide.
nickjones8
Feb 15 2008, 10:44 AM
QUOTE(kerioboe @ Feb 15 2008, 09:00 AM)

QUOTE(hello_cello @ Feb 15 2008, 01:10 AM)

well the jazz part was a bonus, i just think its interesting / cool. but i lkinda like the tuba, because its not as common as the otheres (i think) and would be great, because no one else at school plays it, i could play it in the orchestra without feeling really bad at it! then again i guess its the same with the trombone
oh god a stalmate!
Can you try both tuba and trombone and then make up your mind? My daughter's teacher teaches both and at the beginning of the year he had a new pupil who already played the piano, wanted to learn an orchestral instrument and was hesitating between the tuba and the trombone. The boy spent about a month trying out both in lessons (and just taking a mouth piece home to practise on) and eventually opted for tuba.
My daughter learns the trombone and one of the things which attracted her was the slide.
TUBA! And if in doubt listen to some of the New Orleans Brass Bands with funky tuba bass - The Rebirth Brass Band, The Dirty Dozen or (for those more into hip hop) The Youngblood Brass Band (from Winsconsin, I think)
nick
skylark
Feb 15 2008, 10:59 AM
QUOTE(hello_cello @ Feb 15 2008, 12:10 AM)

well the jazz part was a bonus, i just think its interesting / cool. but i lkinda like the tuba, because its not as common as the otheres (i think) and would be great, because no one else at school plays it
Sousaphone!
This is a picture of a sousaphone being played at a jazz festival I went to last year...

and this is a
youtube clip of the same band
captaintau
Feb 15 2008, 12:17 PM
Tuba is fun, but a hassle to take anywhere.
Maizie
Feb 15 2008, 12:22 PM
Contrabass Bugle! Just to be obscure, and develop a one-sided humped-back

nickjones8
Feb 15 2008, 01:24 PM
QUOTE(Maizie @ Feb 15 2008, 12:22 PM)

Contrabass Bugle! Just to be obscure, and develop a one-sided humped-back


Well THAT is just a tuba with pretensions...and the sousaphone is just a white curly tuba
so TUBA! (btw, I play saxophone mostly...)
Nick
hello_cello
Feb 15 2008, 05:47 PM
LOL ive seen that sousaphone picture a couple of times on here now
skylark
Feb 15 2008, 06:32 PM
briantrumpet
Feb 16 2008, 01:50 PM
A few guidelines (working from the bottom up, as 'twere):
tuba - not the easiest embouchure to master; type of music played can be limited (oom-pah molto); rather large to carry about; players normally have a taste for beer
trombone - cheap to buy; very wide repertoire; relatively easy embouchure (and is forgiving of wonky teeth); real shortage of players; players need a sense of humour & need to know how to do 'vulgar'
french horn - expensive instrument; needs good ear; gets to play sublime music, including Mozart; players inclined to be temperamental (only joking, probably)
trumpet - cheap to buy; wide range of music; difficlut embouchure to master (and not forgiving of wonky teeth); players need to be confident (if not to say show-offs)
On the serious side, one of my sayings is that 'there are no part-time trumpet players'; it's something you either do seriously and regularly, or not at all, as the embouchure needs regular maintenance (practice!) - the larger-mouthpieced instruments (trombone & tuba) are somewhat less critical in this regard (apart from at the higher levels, of course), so are a better choice if regularity of practice might be an issue.
musicfreak
Feb 17 2008, 07:28 PM
Cornet would be good if you have transport issues getting to school
Scurra
Feb 17 2008, 07:36 PM
Serpents are awesome...
They have loads at the Musical Instrument Museum, Belgium - had a whole knid of pyramid display!
You'd have to find an early music group really though.
Check out the Early Music thread... I play the rebec...
hello_cello
Feb 17 2008, 07:54 PM
well any brass instrument would be fine, its only about 6 and half miles to walk to school.
frenchyhorn
Mar 18 2008, 12:01 AM
If you like then trombone, go for it! Its versatile in that it can play in many different styles but not so much orchestrally! A lot of people who play trombone also play baritone or euph as the mouthpieces are similar sizes I think
And excuse me! I object to the abuse Im getting here!

Anyway whats wrong with horn?! (Other than off-beats, not technically brass*, rotary valves, shape)
QUOTE(briantrumpet @ Feb 16 2008, 01:50 PM)

french horn - players inclined to be temperamental (only joking, probably)
I'll leave you to decide that!
*though Im a tenor horn player too
x_Pengy_x
Mar 21 2008, 09:02 PM
I would say to try the cornet first as it is nice and small and easy to hold for beginners, plus the case isnt very heavy to carry round.
Then if they felt adventurous, they could move onto something bigger.
The only instrument that leaves you at a bit of a loss if you dont like it is the trombone i suppose; valve positions can be applied to any brass instrument, but by learning slide positions you restrict yourself to just one instrument.
But of course the trombone is a wonderful instrument, so getting ''stuck with it'' wouldnt be too bad ;]
DrumKat
Mar 22 2008, 01:58 PM
QUOTE(x_Pengy_x @ Mar 21 2008, 09:02 PM)

The only instrument that leaves you at a bit of a loss if you dont like it is the trombone i suppose; valve positions can be applied to any brass instrument, but by learning slide positions you restrict yourself to just one instrument.
But of course the trombone is a wonderful instrument, so getting ''stuck with it'' wouldnt be too bad ;]
I wouldn't say that you restrict yourself with trombone at all. After passing my grade 8 trombone, I decided to have a go at euphonium, and picked it up pretty quickly despite the switch from slide to valves. The slide positions all link with particular valve combinations, so it really doesn't cause any problems. That's my opinion any way.
I'd go for trombone, if I were you. You seem to be most enthusiastic about trombone, and I've found that I've had quite a few opportunities in orchestras as trombone is one of the less-played instruments. It's also great in Big Band playing! I love it anyway!
boneman
Mar 22 2008, 07:37 PM
For me it would be tuba.
I am a bone player but I am on a mission from god!
There are not enough tuba players and if you can get one go down that road.
my_broken_strings
Mar 24 2008, 07:12 AM
actually i like horn but u don't like it so i voted trombone
i like trombone too, it's a nice instrument and able to play low notes.
and i like the glissando effect too!
tuba is a nice instrument too and the rare one too..
hello_cello
Mar 26 2008, 11:13 AM
Well,
I regret to say i am no longer considering a brass instrument,as
a) not cheap
b) don't want practise pressure whilst doing GCSE's
c) Im going to teach myself recorder

Thanks for your advice though
briantrumpet
Mar 27 2008, 12:07 AM
QUOTE(hello_cello @ Mar 26 2008, 11:13 AM)

Well,
I regret to say i am no longer considering a brass instrument,as
a) not cheap
b) don't want practise pressure whilst doing GCSE's
c) Im going to teach myself recorder

Thanks for your advice though

Oh well, perhaps later ... otherwise you'll never really know what you're missing...
joolsters
Apr 2 2008, 09:40 PM
For the record, yes (French) Horn players are temperamental, but usually they are one of the better looking group of the orchestra!!
frenchyhorn
Apr 3 2008, 10:35 PM
QUOTE(joolsters @ Apr 2 2008, 09:40 PM)

For the record, yes (French) Horn players are temperamental, but usually they are one of the better looking group of the orchestra!!

I would have to disagree (as where I am most of us are female!) I would say trombone!
Sorry to hear you've decided not to take up brass as what Brian said you wont know what you're missing!
joolsters
Apr 4 2008, 09:55 AM
All 6 of us are guys here (I know, what's that about?), although we have a honourary 7th horn who is a girl, but, em, well...
roryt
Apr 6 2008, 06:00 PM
Just to give advice to others reading the thread.
Nobody at all has mentioned that you need a good ear to play the trombone! Someone did mention that you need a good ear for the french horn.
I'm a euphonium and trombone player. I think if you want to learn a brass instrument there isn't really a choice that you can make yourself a teacher will find which one suites you the most.
The french horn is without a doubt one of the harder instruments to play though.
fluteytootyjess
Apr 7 2008, 01:55 PM
The tenor horn is fairly "easy" to pick up, and from there you can decide if you'd suit a smaller or larger instrument.
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