hello_cello
Mar 26 2008, 09:51 PM
I keep overblowing the bottom notes, Ie, E D C and C#. Im playing my brand new baby... the yamaha 24B descant recorder. Is this just because im new to it, ive been playing all day and is not like i need to warm up or anything (i think).
Can anyone help me?
Morgan's Munchkin
Mar 26 2008, 10:43 PM
It's a descant, right?
Descant's need very little air. Try to reduce the air, but make sure it's really supported from your diaphram to still get a nice clear and solid tone.
hello_cello
Mar 26 2008, 10:47 PM
yeh descant.
i shouldve bought an alto... only a tenor more.
That was a terrible pun...
Well i hope to be getting a tenor soon, will that be easier?
petrat
Mar 26 2008, 11:35 PM
I suspect that you are not overblowing them but rather letting one or two fingers leak a little so that the instrument squeaks. Don't be in too much of a rush to learn it all at once. Take more time to learn how to play the left hand notes well, with the recorder gently supported on your right thumb. Keep your fingers near to the holes and tongue a smooth "doo-doo" into the recorder rather than the harder "Too-Too" that many books suggest. If you could get a few lessons just to help you on your way it would be helpful too. If that isn't an option yet just take your time. Do lots of ground work on the basics before you attempt the more difficult notes and fingerings.
Morgan's Munchkin
Mar 27 2008, 01:17 AM
If leaking holes are the problem then no, tenor won't be easier - the holes are bigger and further apart so therefore harder to cover.
hello_cello
Mar 27 2008, 10:17 AM
yeh your right, it was just some of the holes leaking, its better now, im pressing a bit harder so it sounds really nice now
anacrusis
Mar 27 2008, 03:47 PM
Don't press so hard that your fingers go stiff though! Keep your fingers relatively flat, so as to use the pads of the fingers rather than the tips. And for the bottom notes you'll have to experiment also with the position of the foot, if it's a separate one - it can appear to be in the right position and still not be - even now I still get caught out by that on occasion.
CJB
Mar 27 2008, 06:02 PM
QUOTE(anacrusis @ Mar 27 2008, 04:47 PM)

Don't press so hard that your fingers go stiff though! Keep your fingers relatively flat, so as to use the pads of the fingers rather than the tips. And for the bottom notes you'll have to experiment also with the position of the foot, if it's a separate one - it can appear to be in the right position and still not be - even now I still get caught out by that on occasion.
I've seen other string players attempting to cover the holes with the tips rather than the pads of the fingers. Leading to a claw like rather than relaxed hand position. If you press down onto the holes the indentations should roughly frame the whirles of your fingerprints.
Morgan's Munchkin
Mar 27 2008, 06:03 PM
Wait til you try a bass - then you'll experience holes leaking
andante_in_c
Mar 27 2008, 06:13 PM
QUOTE(CJB @ Mar 27 2008, 06:02 PM)

I've seen other string players attempting to cover the holes with the tips rather than the pads of the fingers. Leading to a claw like rather than relaxed hand position. If you press down onto the holes the indentations should roughly frame the whirles of your fingerprints.
Thank you, CJB. This clears up the mystery of why a beginner flautist of mine does that - she's an ex-cellist.
hello_cello
Mar 27 2008, 06:18 PM
Her and i should make an ex-cellist club!
I've been moving around the footjoint all day... i hope ive now sorted it.
anacrusis
Mar 27 2008, 06:49 PM
I can't bear to do this to my recorders, but it is possible to mark the footjoint and middle joint with a small line or scratch, to line them up once you've found the ideal position. You'd need to be absolutely sure that this is comfortable though - I don't always have my thumb in quite the same position, which changes what's right for the foot...
RecorderFan
Mar 27 2008, 09:36 PM
I usually tell my pupils to first of all check whether thare aren't any leaks. If that's not the problem then I tell them to imagine that they are filling the whole tube with air, right down to the bottom end of their instrument. And also to think low and fat, especially on low C. Hope this helps!
petrat
Mar 29 2008, 10:29 PM
QUOTE(anacrusis @ Mar 27 2008, 06:49 PM)

I can't bear to do this to my recorders, but it is possible to mark the footjoint and middle joint with a small line or scratch, to line them up once you've found the ideal position.
I mark mine with a pencil line on either side of the joint. It is visible even on the blackwood instruments and doesn't damage them.
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