saxlover
Oct 8 2004, 04:08 PM
for my Alevel performing i have to do a solo recital for about 7-10 mins, im doing it on piano. my head of music thinks 1 of my pieces should be by Einaudi coz i can talk about him for hours on end! (there is a 3 min viva voce at the end of performance)so i might be doing Ora woohoo i loooove that piece.
just cant do the triplet against quavers though
elmo
Oct 8 2004, 04:50 PM
My friend got asked how she would show a beginner how to play her cello in her viva voce for A2 last year
I haven't played anything by Einaudi, is it good?
saxlover
Oct 8 2004, 05:04 PM
is einaudi GOOD?!!?!?! YEEEEEEEES!!!! lol he is brilliant!
Dave_2004_G
Oct 8 2004, 07:34 PM
Hmm Einaudi is very odd - I find it overly repetative
Dave
saxlover
Oct 8 2004, 07:56 PM
Einaudi is far from odd. he is a genius!
elmo- thats a weird question to be asked, arent the questions suppose dto be about stylistic and interpretativr features!?
elmo
Oct 8 2004, 07:59 PM
Yeah that's what we thought! she said something like "I would tell the to hold the bow parallel (sp) to the cello..." but she got interupted and asked would a young beginner really know what parallel was!

She got an A so it doesn't really matter to her now!
saxlover
Oct 8 2004, 08:12 PM
well good for her!
do you know what you are doing for the performance yet?!
liebe_klavier
Oct 8 2004, 08:36 PM
why don't you play something by Bach, beethoven, W.A. Mozart...etc
saxlover
Oct 8 2004, 08:39 PM
i can play anything i like, it doesnt have to be by a world famous composer
elmo
Oct 9 2004, 12:39 PM
Yeah I think either the movement from the Brahams sonata on the clarinet grade 7 syllabus or the first movement of the Graham Lyons sonata also on the grade 7 syllabus! Or both!
What else are you going to play? And which Einaudi will you play?
liebe_klavier
Oct 9 2004, 12:54 PM
| QUOTE (clarinetlover @ Oct 8 2004, 08:39 PM) |
| i can play anything i like, it doesnt have to be by a world famous composer |
you have a point...but i sitll perfer to play pieces by world famous composers
hornplayer
Oct 9 2004, 08:19 PM
for the triplets against quavers thing. say "nice cup of tea" and the rhythm is that of 3 and 2. try clapping on a desk with your LH "nice" and "of" when you say the phrase, and "nice" "cup" and "tea" with your RH.
hope that helps.
Einaudi, ive heard some of his pieces but dont know which to buy, can you suggest a cheap-ish volume for me to buy (ie less than £10, im a student and therefore am cheap!)
cecilia
Oct 9 2004, 08:23 PM
I heard of the "nice cup of tea" but I was told it was "fried fish and chips"!
How do you do three against four? I was told one for that too but I've forgotten!
saxlover
Oct 10 2004, 10:03 AM
im not too sure on the Einaudi piece yet, ihave a few which we are thinking of, it has to be difficult so i can get good marks LOL well i also need to play it well but it cant be too easy.
i might be doing one of my grade 6 pieces...............poss Allegro

lol
hornplayer- i think you could get the Le Onde book for around £15 thats the cheapest i think, but im not sure.
i still dont get the triplets and quavers thing
maggiemay
Oct 10 2004, 11:14 AM
| QUOTE |
| i still dont get the triplets and quavers thing |
Nat - I don't know if you saw this before, in case not, see if it helps .......
Try saying "three funny men" with a firm crotchet - 2 quavers - crotchet
rhythm several times; (think 3/4 time with 2 quavers on the middle beat).
When you have this firmly in your head, tap as follows:
Both hands on Three
RH on Fun-
LH on -ny
RH on men.
Get this going and you 're tapping 3 with your RH against 2 in your LH.
If the "2" is in the RH simply swap round, so instead of both - R-L-R you're doing both - L-R-L. Once this becomes familiar, you'll need to adjust it to the context of the piece - the crotchets in the word pattern may become quavers - whatever the "2" against the 3 is (hope this makes sense).
Any words with the same rhythm will work - hence nice cup of tea, fried fish and chips, cold cup of tea etc etc.
Maggie
saxlover
Oct 10 2004, 07:28 PM
thanks Maggie, i understand but i still cannot play it right!
the notes are;
RH triplet- Eb, D, C
LH quavers- C, G thenn it carries on with other notes blah blah... lol
when i play it, it seems liek i hold the D on for longer and play the C and G together
does that make any sense?!LOL
maggiemay
Oct 10 2004, 08:42 PM
| QUOTE |
the notes are;
RH triplet- Eb, D, C
LH quavers- C, G thenn it carries on with other notes blah blah... |
so I think if I have understood right, you play:
Eb and C together (Three)
then D-G (Fun-ny)
and RH C (Men)
try out of context and slowly to see if that works!
don't shoot me if not lol
Maggie
saxlover
Oct 10 2004, 08:44 PM
i get what notes i have to play on each soumd but it doesnt sound right and i seem to hold the D on for longer that i should!
AnotherPianist
Oct 11 2004, 11:40 AM
Didn't you say you played the Romance in G for grade 4 (maybe I'm wrong...)? The reason I ask is that I was sightreading it yesterday (a little short of practice material!) and if I recall correctly that has three against two in it. Perhaps you could dig that out and try to remember how you did it then!
I just learnt to do it by clapping it a lot (well hitting my legs...) until I got used to the sound of it, then put the notes in later (or just play the whole thing it on two Cs to start with). Persevere, once you've got it you'll be able to use it all over the place.
sbhoa
Oct 11 2004, 12:21 PM
Sometimes it is just better to learn to play each hand in time then just go for it.
saxlover
Oct 11 2004, 08:49 PM
AnotherPianist- no i didnt play Romance in G, i did watchmans song from that group.
ill keep trying! surely ill eventually be able to play it!
AnotherPianist
Oct 12 2004, 11:24 AM
Oh, sorry. Never mind; I'm sure that you'll get it if you keep trying.
Lucia
Oct 12 2004, 03:04 PM
Hi Nat I have had a bit of a problem with the triplet against quavers thing in the Chopin Nocturne I am doing. I managed it in the end by working out exactly where each of the notes of the triplet should fit in with the quavers, i.e. by drawing a line from each note in the right hand to the point where it should be played in the left hand. Then I played it really really slowly. After lots of practice I have now managed to speed it up and it sounds really good. I know this is a very mathematical way of doing it and I'm sure Chopin would not have approached it in this manner but he was a very accomplished pianist not someone like me who has only been playing for three years.
saxlover
Oct 12 2004, 10:20 PM
i have worked out where each note fits and everything but it still is not right! i think instead of the triplets im playing; semiquaver-quaver-semiquaver (i think!)
i have a piano lesson tomorrow anyway so if we have time ill ask my teacher!
piano_ellie
Oct 13 2004, 07:51 PM
einaudi is vvvv. repetative, but the music is loverlly !!!!! it is good for playing on your own, but i don't think it's good for performance as it's so repetative !
ohh well !! it's lovellly to play on your own and to listen to !!
if you struggle with any rhythms, but the CDs and listen to how they should sound
Ellie x
sbhoa
Oct 14 2004, 12:29 PM
It is not impossible to make something repetitive not sound boring... but it's not easy. I think if you play as though you really love it that helps.
Catrin
Oct 14 2004, 07:17 PM
Like Lucia I go for the maths approach - if you count in 12 and speed it up gradually it sort of works. The notes are in the right places even if it doesn't sound very musical at first
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