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Robodoc
Many of Chopin's studies have nicknames, such at the Black Keys study, the Revolutionary study and so on. I have been unable to find a complete list of such names. I'm sure that I must have missed this somewhere (or maybe I'm asking slightly the wrong questions) but Google has not yielded the answer: Help anyone?
DaisyChain
Op 10 no. 1 in C major "Arpeggio"
no. 5 in G flat "Black Key"
no.12 in C minor "Revolutionary"


Op25 no. 1 in A flat major "Aeolian Harp"
no.2 in F minor "Les Abeilles"
no.9 in G flat "Butterfly"
no. 11 in A minor "Winter Wind"

These are the only ones named in my book. Hope they are what you're looking for.
Robodoc
QUOTE(DaisyChain @ Jun 13 2008, 10:50 PM) *

Op 10 no. 1 in C major "Arpeggio"
no. 5 in G flat "Black Key"
no.12 in C minor "Revolutionary"


Op25 no. 1 in A flat major "Aeolian Harp"
no.2 in F minor "Les Abeilles"
no.9 in G flat "Butterfly"
no. 11 in A minor "Winter Wind"

These are the only ones named in my book. Hope they are what you're looking for.

Yes, but I had this idea there were more. Perhaps not!
DaisyChain
This link tells you more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89tude_Op..._1_%28Chopin%29

Scroll down to the pale brown area where most of the studies have been named.
Robodoc
QUOTE(DaisyChain @ Jun 13 2008, 11:40 PM) *

This link tells you more.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89tude_Op..._1_%28Chopin%29

Scroll down to the pale brown area where most of the studies have been named.

Ah! How did I miss this? I visited that page before and dismissed it as being about only a single etude, that's how! Thank you!

For the benefit of others, this is what it says:

Op 10
1. Waterfall
2. Chromatic
3. Tristesse
4. Torrent
5. Black Key
6. -
7. Toccata
8. Sunshine
9. -
10. -
11. Arpeggio
12. Revolutionary

Op 25
1. Aeolian Harp
2. The Bees
3. The Horseman
4. -
5. Wrong note
6. Thirds
7. Cello
8. Sixths
9. Butterfly
10. Octaves
11. Winter Wind
12. Ocean

Apparently The Nouvelles Etudes 1-3 have no nicknames.
Mad Tom
And in the spirit of completeness may I propose these for general adoption:

Op 10
6. - Tearjerker
9. - Gallop
10. - Harangue

and

Op 25
4. - The Pogo Stick

piano.gif Boing-Boing, Boing-Boing, Boing-Boing, Boing-Boing, ...
Bobsie
I would be interested to know how many of these nicknames came from Chopin himself; I got the impression that Chopin was greatly irritated by other people attaching nicknames to his works. (However, I may be wrong and would be interested to hear other points of view! - shout at me if I'm wrong huh.gif
Robodoc
QUOTE(Mad Tom @ Jun 14 2008, 10:01 AM) *

And in the spirit of completeness may I propose these for general adoption:

Op 10
6. - Tearjerker
9. - Gallop
10. - Harangue

and

Op 25
4. - The Pogo Stick

piano.gif Boing-Boing, Boing-Boing, Boing-Boing, Boing-Boing, ...

I was going to ask if any of them go by the name of "The Impossible" and then I remembered the Liszt Paganini Transendental & concert studies, and the Rachmaninov studies.

Apart from La Campanella, do any of these have nicknames or are they all "The Impossible!"?
DaisyChain
QUOTE(Bobsie @ Jun 14 2008, 03:58 PM) *

I would be interested to know how many of these nicknames came from Chopin himself; I got the impression that Chopin was greatly irritated by other people attaching nicknames to his works. (However, I may be wrong and would be interested to hear other points of view! - shout at me if I'm wrong huh.gif


No, you're right. Chopin certainly never gave any of these etudes (or many of his other pieces) nicknames smile.gif
Mad Tom
QUOTE(Robodoc @ Jun 14 2008, 08:57 PM) *

I was going to ask if any of them go by the name of "The Impossible" and then I remembered the Liszt Paganini Transendental & concert studies, and the Rachmaninov studies.

Apart from La Campanella, do any of these have nicknames or are they all "The Impossible!"?

CHOPIN ETUDES:
Not only are none of the Chopin Etudes impossible - they are not even enormously difficult. Most of us end up believing that they are because:
  • We have been conditioned to think it (e.g. by our early failures to get anywhere with them, and by books, writers of album sleeve notes, and early piano teachers that can't play them themselves)
  • We are often not shown good methods for practice and study in general
  • We have not discovered or been shown the specific approach, technique, and exercises for mastering each individual etude
If Vladimir de Pachmann is to be believed, at the age of 18 he was given 2 to learn at one lesson, and appeared at his next with all 24 memorized (Great Pianists on Piano Playing - James Francis Cooke. T Presser 1917 - republished Dover 1999). Unfortunately he does not tell us how frequently he had lessons! Anyway I am not saying that it easy to give a fine performance of any of them. But it isn't easy to give a fine performance of anything. Even something as "easy" as Gurlitt's "Cradle Song".

LISZT:
All of Liszt's Etudes have names - many of them by Liszt himself. Those of the 12 Transcendental Etudes are in the scores, but I think your copy might be in Russian(!) so here you go:

1 - Preludio
2 - Fusees
3 - Paysage
4 - Mazeppa
5 - Feux Follets
6 - Vision
7 - Eroica
8 - Wilde Jagd
9 - Ricordanza
10 - Appassionata
11 - Harmonies du Soir
12 - Chasse Neige

The Paganini Etudes are:

1 - Tremolo
2 - Andantino Capricioso
3 - La Campanella
4 - Arpeggio
5 - La Chasse
6 - Theme and Variations (the same one Brahms and Rachmaninov used)

2 Concert Etudes

1 - Waldesrauschen
2 - Gnomenreigen

3 Concert Etudes

1 - Il lamento
2 - La leggierezza
3 - Un sospiro

I haven't made a serious attempt at any of these yet, but they still look to be beyond me. But they cannot be as difficult as they were 50 years ago. It used to be that only a handful of the best in the world played them. Now Russian children learn them before they audition for the Conservatoires

People argue about who was the greatest genius of all time, and usually conclude that it was Goethe - but Liszt's name is always missing from the discussions.


IMPOSSIBLE:
If it is impossible you are looking for, look up the Etudes by Ligeti

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