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fayewolf
So, a little short story before I ask my question. My teacher said she wanted me to start working on some sonata work, I got really excited, she told me to go get the mozart sonata book. So I went to the store, looked for it, ehmmm... it's really thick. Flip through it, OMG, it looks kinda difficult. I went home and tried a little bit (E minor, my favorite one) and I sound like rubbish. So, I didn't bring my book to class for 4 weeks since she told me to get it. She never said a word, I figure i can postpone it until she ask for it.
Last week, she pull out a xerox copy of the G major and asked me to start working on this one and she was wondering why i never brought the book!? I told her the truth and she said "nice try".

Back to the music. I'm seriously murdering Mozart here, i feel horrible. A few challenges here (I hope someone who played this can help me out!!)

I don't know what those are called (they are not quite appregios, but appregio like accompaniment to the piano part), there was one measure where I have to do Low G, G on D string, Cnatural (G string), G on D again. My fingers are very tiny, barring the 3rd finger to play both is really difficult, and I don't know why because of this, it is affecting my string crossing, seems like I'm late on my string crossing (hear the low G before I hear the G on D string), does this make any sense to you? It's SO EASY to do these broken chords on the piano, but on the violin it is very difficult!!!

There is one part where it is in piano, (as in soft, not the instrument), i have to play stacatto Low G, G on D string alternately. How am I suppose to do it? When I do it, it sounded so harsh!!

I think thats what I have for now.. this is quite a challenging piece for me!
kenm
I'm not brilliant at string crossing, even after playing the bass for 40 years. If I were required to alternate an open string and the note an octave above, I might prefer to play the upper note on the same string. It helps that 1) my bass sounds rather good in high positions and 2) I can use all four fingers once I get them all a fifth or more above the open string.
AmandaL
QUOTE(kenm @ Nov 25 2008, 09:08 AM) *
If I were required to alternate an open string and the note an octave above, I might prefer to play the upper note on the same string. It helps that 1) my bass sounds rather good in high positions and 2) I can use all four fingers once I get them all a fifth or more above the open string.
Different kettle of fish on the violin. G an octave above the open string is a long way up and certainly not practical for Mozart.

Fayewolf,
Stick to what your teacher says. The fingering/strings are appropriate for the work you are playing, but your need to give yourself time and practice - lots of both - otherwise you'll be murdering yourself as well as Mozart.

Advice to anyone whose teacher suggests they start learning major works:

They are difficult works

Give yourself time to get the notes under your fingers

Sight-reading a major solo work is not really possible. You have to tackle it in a way that your brain can assimilate the notes and make it sound musical

You will not learn them in the same sort of time-frame that it took you to learn a short piece for a Grade exam - making them sound good takes even longer

Be patient, the violin is difficult enough to play without beating yourself up over it at the same time
fayewolf
QUOTE(AmandaL @ Nov 25 2008, 02:13 PM) *

QUOTE(kenm @ Nov 25 2008, 09:08 AM) *
If I were required to alternate an open string and the note an octave above, I might prefer to play the upper note on the same string. It helps that 1) my bass sounds rather good in high positions and 2) I can use all four fingers once I get them all a fifth or more above the open string.
Different kettle of fish on the violin. G an octave above the open string is a long way up and certainly not practical for Mozart.

Fayewolf,
Stick to what your teacher says. The fingering/strings are appropriate for the work you are playing, but your need to give yourself time and practice - lots of both - otherwise you'll be murdering yourself as well as Mozart.

Advice to anyone whose teacher suggests they start learning major works:

They are difficult works

Give yourself time to get the notes under your fingers

Sight-reading a major solo work is not really possible. You have to tackle it in a way that your brain can assimilate the notes and make it sound musical

You will not learn them in the same sort of time-frame that it took you to learn a short piece for a Grade exam - making them sound good takes even longer

Be patient, the violin is difficult enough to play without beating yourself up over it at the same time


You are absolutely right!! While this piece sounds innocently simple, it is indeed quite difficult for me. I'm glad my teacher told me to just work on the first page till the repeat.

Amandal (or anyone), are you familiar with this piece? Do you play the first note (D) harmonic? It's written as harmonic in my edition, but I've seen it done either way. Also, I was under the impression that the octave stacatto G in the beginning were spicattos but my teacher told me to keep bow on the string and play on the tip of my bow... so confusing. Thoughts?
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