Have I made a good purchase here? I've used them before without fault and most people have said they're good, but what do you think?

what's an sm-58?

Sorry... it's a microphone

QUOTE (freda_bloogs @ Oct 29 2004, 09:23 AM)

Sorry... it's a microphone

ah now that makes sense!

The shure Sm58 is quite possibly the best budget vocal microphone you can buy. While not to the same standard as the far better SM58beta, or a good compressor mic, it's very good value, since I'll assume you will have got it second hand and paid about £60?

In my view yes. I had to refresh my memory about this particular mike but it gives a lovely vocal sound, not too hissy at the top and boy, it's rugged.

No it was new at £90

i don't normally need it... i can project my voice easily.....

Really?! Over two 750 watt amplifiers?!

QUOTE (freda_bloogs @ Nov 7 2004, 11:45 PM)

Really?! Over two 750 watt amplifiers?!

are u teasing me or something...i do have a loud voice and i don't suit using a microphone.... also...i once sang in Arandul (can't spell) cathedral...i did a solo and everyone could hear me....

No it was a real question, how one would be able to sing over two 750w amplifiers, 6 speakers playing with a rock backing is absolutely beyond me...it just came across to me as slightly patronising, thus the slight dig but genuine question none-the-less.

QUOTE (freda_bloogs @ Nov 8 2004, 10:15 PM)

how one would be able to sing over two 750w amplifiers, 6 speakers playing with a rock backing is absolutely beyond me.

Ooh nice Glad thats you and not me!

But to the original thread, SM-58 is a good buy, well I say that because it is the only one that hasn't broken completely (or broken down at some point) in our music department!

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it is the only one that hasn't broken completely (or broken down at some point) in our music department!

Ah you have a point there! Everything goes kaputt in our music dept.! I blame the staff, they don't know what they're doing Just shows that a 1st Class Hons Degree in Music from Guildhall doesn't teach you everything!

QUOTE (freda_bloogs @ Nov 8 2004, 11:01 PM)

Just shows that a 1st Class Hons Degree in Music from Guildhall doesn't teach you everything!

also those from the RCM, RAM or even the RNCM....

I only said Guildhall because my particular music teacher went there, you really needn't pick me up. I'm sorry for saying you sounded patronising *slaps wrist*

QUOTE (freda_bloogs @ Nov 9 2004, 09:31 PM)

I only said Guildhall because my particular music teacher went there, you really needn't pick me up. I'm sorry for saying you sounded patronising *slaps wrist*

it doesn't really matter.... it's just that the director of muisc in my school went to RCM, my singing teacher to RNCM and my piano teacher went to Germany instead....i think teachers who teach other instruments went to either Guildhall or Trinity.... most of them can't handle equipment (except their own instrument) properly...

Is there any difference between SM 58 made in Mexico and Made in USA ?

I assumed they were all made in Mexico...I assume you've found a USA version?

what's it to do with music???

QUOTE (liebe_klavier @ Nov 27 2004, 02:25 PM)

what's it to do with music???

it's a microphone... used for amplification... in MUSIC.

techies are people too!

but i think classical singers don't normally use them.... it's not good...think about the pop-stars.... you can't really hear what they are singing....

QUOTE (liebe_klavier @ Nov 27 2004, 02:41 PM)

but i think classical singers don't normally use them.... it's not good...think about the pop-stars.... you can't really hear what they are singing....

they're still musicians... jazz and rock singers also use them, and jazz is considered a sophisticated form of music insomuch as the ABRSM has dedicated a forum to it...

I personally like a lot of pop music as well as other forms of music.

i don't really like pop music.... especially those in hong kong... i do regard most of them as rubbish..... i'd prefer classical music....particularly repetoire from the romantic era....

QUOTE (liebe_klavier @ Nov 27 2004, 02:49 PM)

i don't really like pop music.... especially those in hong kong... i do regard most of them as rubbish..... i'd prefer classical music....particularly repetoire from the romantic era....

fair enough, but pop, jazz and rock still come under the general definition of "music", whether classical musicians appreciate it or not.

i do know that....

I'm not having a dig at you personally Liebe_Klavier, but has anyone noticed any snobbery between the classical musicians and everyone else?

QUOTE (freda_bloogs @ Nov 27 2004, 03:28 PM)

I'm not having a dig at you personally Liebe_Klavier, but has anyone noticed any snobbery between the classical musicians and everyone else?

yes... which is why I try not to be a snob. I really do appreciate all angles of the musical world (and there's bits of everything that I don't like as well)... sorry if I'm a guilty party here!!! I do try!

everyone loves a bit of cheesy pop every now and then.

i really like outkast and basement jaxx also.

but its ok not liking other types of music, but disregarding non-classical musicians as second class or whatever is not ok.

QUOTE (hornplayer @ Nov 27 2004, 03:33 PM)

everyone loves a bit of cheesy pop every now and then. i really like outkast and basement jaxx also. but its ok not liking other types of music, but disregarding non-classical musicians as second class or whatever is not ok.

agree with that totally!!!

you can't dance to brahms or beethoven in the same way as you can to cheesy pop...

i'm sorry guys... i don't mean that... the reason i don't really like pop music is due to the influence in hong kong....i came from hong kong...though i study in a private convent school in england.... those hong kong pop-singers or ocmposers....merely claim to have talent....but in fact they produce worst music ever.... sometimes they regard themselves as musicians or artists.... which makes me really cross.... as they have no "right" to claim those titles....they are famous because of their look...not their talent.... some pop stars or singers are really talented...but not as good looking....they kind of get "ignored".....

hehehe, imagine going to a club and trying to impress a guy with your dancing to Schoenberg! or a Bach Chorale! not really gonna happen is it.

Show it then! lol

hey there.... are you guys teasing me or something.... pop music just won't fit in in my life....okay? i try not to offend anyone...okay??

What about Rock or Jazz? Maybe some main course Metallica with a side salad of improvisation?

i don't like rock...jaz is up to a point...

how about muse? its basically baroque on guitar and keyboard. and the bass lines are gorgeous.

seriously tho, its totally fine if you dont like pop liebe_klavier, everyone has freedom of what they want to listen to.

just remember to be open minded. its best to judge each band/artist or piece of music/song individually rather than by genre.

Ah muse is wonderful! They're the only band I've heard who can use effects on the bass guitar well (those like distortion etc.)

Muse are amazing!!

i've never heard it performed before....

QUOTE (liebe_klavier @ Nov 27 2004, 09:50 PM)

i've never heard it performed before....

If you're talking about Muse there... they're a band rather than a work! Don't worry, you weren't to know. Try renting one of their CDs from a library - if you don't like it, you can give it back and pretend it never happened. But you might be spellbound, like I was.

Yeah, it's such an old concept in a brilliantly new delivery, I think it's fab

It is!!!

They are great! I went to one of their concerts and it was sooooooo great. I just stood there at the end thinking 'I wish I could play the piano like that' If anyone knows where you can get any sheet music for the piano (if they have any) PLEASE PLEASE let me know. I borrowed my mate's book but it was pretty much all guitary.

oh god....i don't understand a word here.... i think i need to up-date myself slightly....

I have the music for sunburn, it's very romantic. I don't know if it sounds that way on the record because I've never heard it, it's just in a compilation book.

The thing I think we all need to bear in mind is that all music is inspired to some extent by the previous generation's music. So pop music has its influences from "classical" music, just as you can see the similarities between Baroque and Classical music, or Romantic and 20th century music.

This is why I love all music. But my favourites are the native music of any countries, and the Renaissance plainsongs, because they are 100% original. Almost