Hi =] I'm a musician but i don't sing. I did when i was younger, and i thought i was very good, but believe me I wasn't.

Since my voice broke however, i think i've gotten worse, and i haven't tried at all.

For this thing in our school choir (i'm not in choir) our GCSE class has been roped in because there are no male singers in the choir, and they need male singers for this one song, even if they're out of tune completely.

We had to sing to the note that our music teacher was singing, and i was the only one who could do it. =]

I mentioned it to my piano teacher and she said that I should definetely stay with the choir, because it helps you learn about harmony and sight singing (Thats an amazingly cool concept that i'd love to have. ) She has perfect pitch because of it! (Or so she said)

So i thought to myself, now there's an idea!

But i don't actually think I can sing, i'm very out, all though sometimes i CAN sing, but most of the time no =[

Can you learn how to sing if you're really bad, or does it have to be something that you have to be able to do right from the start?

I'm not considering lessons or grades, btw.

Also, if I were going to sing, what kind of a range is good? I think i can do about an octave and a few notes. I think i'm tenor, but i'm not completely sure.

Your voice is still very young and not settled yet but a good teacher who knows how to care for changing voices could certainly help you. You will certainly learn a lot about sight singing and listening skills in the choir.

But do make sure that you get a really good teacher, though. Preferably one who has experience with 'immature' voices....

Oh, i didn't mention that I'm not actually planning to get a singing teacher. My parents pay for too many music lessons already DX

If I were to have a teacher, it would simply be in the choir.

If your voice is not settled yet, singing in a choir could cause more damage than good if you don't have a teacher on the side.

Often in choirs, the conductor tries to teach a bit of technique to the singers but, because frequently the conductor isn't a voice expert, or even if (s)he is - the fact of working with a group is problematic. If someone has a vocal issue in particular, the conductor won't be able to fix that - instead there will be general group vocalises and advice that could actually cause the problem to worsen. This isn't the conductor's fault, of course, it's devilishly hard to teach singing in group circumstances for that very reason.

I'd say if you get a good teacher, with experience in handling changing voices, then the choir would be an excellent add-on for sight-singing purposes - otherwise, I'd wait till your voice has settled.