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Going along those lines, my sister asked me to mark a mock paper that she did last week as practice for her exam tomorrow, and I wasn't sure what to do when I found that in a question "transpose this up a minor 3rd", she had transposed the passage down a perfect 5th. Absolutely perfectly, 10/10 worthy- but that wasn't what the question had said.

Was I right to award her no marks for that question (she still got 81, pretty good) or would the examiners do something different in that situation?

good luck everyone,jsut remember DONT PANIC!!

cecilia- thats intersting, but surely they couldnt give full marks because it wasnt the correct answer to the question. does seem harsh though

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An advice sheet I have on marking grade 5 papers which is based on instructions to examiners says...

(ii) Mark out of 6 if the transposition is to an incorrect interval/at the wrong octave

Shboa, that's interesting. Do you mean if someone transposed perfectly but by the wrong interval they would still get 6 marks? That's more generous than I would have thought - but good news!

Can i just say one thing..


what is the easiest way for you to remember the the timing..? got like a ryme to remember all of them or something

i can only remember

2 3 4 2 3 4 6 9 12 5 5 7 8 3 6
2 2 2 4 4 4 8 8 8 4 8 4 4 8 8

i cant remember the other one very well

According to the sheet I have which says it is based on advice to examiners then it is so.
And yes, I do think that it is rather generous.presonally if someone answered the wrong question I would be inclined to give no marks

Babybanana... I sort of see what you are saying... but I don't see how it helps with anything.
I don't think you ever need to list all possible time signatures.

QUOTE (Rhapsodin @ Nov 2 2004, 05:43 PM)

Hopefully it won't need too much luck.

A miracle would be nice!

Sbhoa

Where did you get the advice sheet from? I've often wondered what criteria the examiners use to mark from.

As you say, I agree that 6 marks is quite generous as the question wasn't answered accurately. I wonder if they always award marks in situations like that.

QUOTE (cecilia @ Nov 3 2004, 12:47 AM)

Going along those lines, my sister asked me to mark a mock paper that she did last week as practice for her exam tomorrow, and I wasn't sure what to do when I found that in a question "transpose this up a minor 3rd", she had transposed the passage down a perfect 5th. Absolutely perfectly, 10/10 worthy- but that wasn't what the question had said. Was I right to award her no marks for that question (she still got 81, pretty good) or would the examiners do something different in that situation?

I think anything less than 5 would be completely inappropiate for just reading the question wrong. I would give it out of 7!

QUOTE (cecilia @ Nov 2 2004, 04:47 PM)

I wasn't sure what to do when I found that in a question "transpose this up a minor 3rd", she had transposed the passage down a perfect 5th.  Absolutely perfectly, 10/10 worthy- but that wasn't what the question had said. Was I right to award her no marks for that question (she still got 81, pretty good) or would the examiners do something different in that situation?

I really can't think of any good reason to give marks for answering a question totally incorrectly. I expect we've all been told until we're sick of hearing it "read the question carefully"! Giving a perfect answer to a completely different question is rather like coming back with an onion when someone asks you to buy them an apple.

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Where did you get the advice sheet from?

It is an information sheet I got from UK Piano Teachers Forum
where I am a member.

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Good luck to everyone taking their theory exams tomorrow!

I've got my Grade 2 theory tomorrow!

Car Expert

Yes, good luck to everyone doing a theory exam tomorrow! Good luck car expert! Hope you'll do as well as you did in your grade 1!!

Good Luck,Everyone!

Noodle

GOOD LUCK! *bakes goo luck cake with bananas for those who need them*

When my pupils do practice papers I award no marks at all if they transpose at the wrong interval - but I'm a mean marker and they always get higher marks in the exam than in the practise papers - in my view this is better than marking leniently and then they get low marks in the exam.

I tend to mark mean too.. if in doubt knock off marks, that way there are no falsley high expectations.

Yes, good luck everyone! (Can't believe that it's a year since I took my grade 5 theory!)

Yes, I agree. Better to mark someone down than to mark too high & give them false hope. I told my teacher to mark me down a few times when I went through some papers I'd done with her as then I could see the worse possible mark I could get in a situation like that.

Good luck everyone who's taking theory exams tomorrow, I'm doing grade 5!

Lisa xxx

Good Luck in the Theory Exam everyone

I've no-one entered this session

Re: Transposition. Having marked some years ago for "another board" , the guideline was:

If the extract had been transposed at the wrong interval, to award a concessionary mark ONLY if the transposition in itself was wholly correct.

Thanks for the luck everyone!

Car Expert

Don't know if this is the right thread to post in but my friend is really panicking over a question (she has her exam today)...

The question says: 'name four instruments in a string quartet'...i thought it meant the 4 usually used, which includes 2 violins..(doesnt it? ) But we don't know whether the question meant '4 TYPES of instruments' or not...

Yes, you're right - it's 2 violins, viola and cello

Good luck to everyone for today .

Good luck to everyone for tonight, Ill be sitting my Grade 7 theory.

Debs x