if music college doesn't take in singers at least the age of 22, why maria callis could start singing in famous opera groups at the age around 16??

Pure unfettered talent?

you don't need a degree to be an opera singer.

it also depends on who you are - my voice was nowhere near mature enough at 16 to sing operatic stuff (although I did some anyway) - it's still not mature now, but maybe maria callis had the voice and the talent when she was 16...

How about, Callas was Callas?

Also she actually managed to damage her voice by singing too much, singing very different registers too close to each other (like a lyric then a dramatic role within a week or something)....what she did have was a fabulous sense of scene and acting which did not really exist much at the time....

If you look at child prodigies, how many of them are still talked about at age 30? Surely a career as a musician should last until your 50s or 60s or even later...so what's the point in starting before you are ready? Remember the tortoise and the hare....

i do remember that story...but would you consider maria callas is one of the best classical singers in the world??

QUOTE (liebe_klavier @ Nov 28 2004, 08:07 PM)

i do remember that story...but would you consider maria callas is one of the best classical singers in the world??

I always thought of her as a singing actress, with a tremendous stage presence and a thorough understanding of the roles she played. I think she was probably an excellent antidote to the great voices in non-acting bodies who performed in some sorts of opera when I was young, but I don't enjoy listening to her recordings; her pitching was too inaccurate (not that that made her unique on the operatic stage).

You could call her classical in the widest sense, but I don't think she ever performed Classical opera - Gluck, Mozart and Beethoven. She started around Bellini and Donizetti and got as far as Puccini. After some Wagner early in her career she concentrated on bel canto parts.

QUOTE (kenm @ Nov 28 2004, 06:13 PM)

You could call her classical in the widest sense, but I don't think she ever performed Classical opera - Gluck, Mozart and Beethoven.

I don't know much about her, but here's a recording of her singing Mozart and Beethoven (et al.)...
Maria Callas At Juilliard

QUOTE (liebe_klavier @ Nov 16 2004, 08:06 PM)

if music college doesn't take in singers at least the age of 22, why maria callis could start singing in famous opera groups at the age around 16??

I have seen ppl in London sing at the age of 5!!
They're good singers,worldwide known ppl!!!
Unfortunately i forgot their name...

i wished i could be one of them....

And then what?

QUOTE (lafrog @ Nov 29 2004, 10:00 PM)

And then what?

exactly! then what?

putting kids on the stage frequently leads to problems in later life; I have several friends with severe problems because they've been pushed into the limelight all their life.

better to wait until you can cope.

okay... i think i should fully prepare myself before my dip exam...which is next year...

QUOTE (liebe_klavier @ Nov 30 2004, 08:15 PM)

okay... i think i should fully prepare myself before my dip exam...which is next year...

good plan.

my previous singing teacher told me I could do a diploma if I really wanted to, but both she and I agreed that I should wait until I'm older. And the guy I have teaching me now doesn't prepare his pupils for exams (which suits me as well)