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Hok Yan Wong
I have just got my results for LRSM Piano Performance and I failed. I have now passed the DipABRSM and LTCL. As before getting the results, I am preparing and pratising the pieces for FTCL and I just don't want to drop off -- anyway the results made me down already. But can anybody could tell me if I should retake LRSM or just go ahead for FTCL and then return? My teacher advice me to go ahead because there is a gap for the period as the deadline for November / December has already passed.

Thanks a lot.
mrbouffant
Did you fail LRSM on interpretative/technical grounds or was it in the supplementary tasks such as programme notes, quick study or viva?

If you have technical issues then it must be better to solve those than waste money on an expensive FTCL exam...
Hok Yan Wong
Well, the examiners told me that I have slips on left hand during the recital and a little misreadings when interpretate some phrases. i got 20(24) over 60 and some marks are deducted as I was told that I have less performing time.
In viva, I was told that i am hesitate on the questions asked in romantic period while i am confident in Baroque and Classical but I only got 6(10) over 24
I have done the worst in Quick study and I am really scare and only 3(6) marks are awarded.

So do you have any advice for me to pass my LRSM?
Wai Kit Leung
If you are not in a hurry to pass the exam, perhaps it's best for you to regroup and work on some areas of your playing, before you attepmt the exam again? It appears like there are a few areas that you have to work before you will pass comfortably. Perhaps some basic drills in technique would help? Quick study cannot be built up overnight, but a good basic technique would allow you to play anything at sight more easily (at least that was the case for me). I hope you take this as a learning experience and not think too much about the failure (I know it's easier said than done).
mr bean
As you have passed the LTCL Recital, your performance standard should be of the standard required to pass at LRSM level - it looks like your programme timing needs looking at in order not to lose marks there. As for quick study, I would do some sight reading every day in order to get to the standard needed.
It might be worth re-sitting the LRSM before attempting a Fellowship as the standard required for FTCL would be distinctly in excess of that required at Licentiate level. But that is only my opinion! Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
organ_dummy
The performance standard required to pass the LTCL and LRSM should be the same; however, my colleagues and I feel that, in reality, the LTCL is much easier to pass due to more lenient marking.
Some forum members will disagree with this.

In any case, the failing marks in all three sections of the LRSM suggest that the candidate was rushed into the exam without sufficient preparation. Giving that the marks are way below the minimum passing marks, the candidate should not proceed to the fellowship level. Instead, s/he should address the deficiency in his/her playing first, e.g. technique, ability to interpret scores musically, sight reading, etc. It would not be a bad idea to retake the LRSM exam.
Hok Yan Wong
It seems that I'd better retake LRSM! In fact, I really think that I can pass my Recital and Viva Voce but some hesitate in my Quick Study.

Thank you for all valuable advice! I will work hard on that smile.gif
mr bean
I'm not sure what pieces you did for your LR., but I noticed that there are some pieces which appear on both the LR. list and the FTCL list eg. Schubert sonatas (D958 and D959) and Debussy's 'Feux d' artifice'.(Although you'd have to pair it with another Debussy prelude for the LR. exam). So you could try any of these out for the LR. and also later use them for the FT.!
Another option if you want to do another Licentiate exam is to take the LLCM; in the standard version you can chose two out of :- sight reading, viva and programme notes; this way you wouldn't have to have the anxiety of doing sight reading. (LLCM also has items which appear on the FTCL list such as the Beethoven op.110)
Hope this is of some help.
mrbouffant
It is worth remembering that if you recycle pieces for higher dips, you will probably have to still provide a higher level of performance even though the notes on the page are the same.
mr bean
I totally agree! The LRSM is clearly a very demanding diploma to take (that's why I've never had the courage to try it! sad.gif ). But the standard they seem to be looking for at Fellowship level is (to me anyway) quite frightening. eg. the LCM syllabus states that in order to pass the FLCM, the candidate 'must present a recital of a standard which one might expect to hear at a major concert venue'.
mrbouffant
The syllabus is scarier than the reality. I passed FLCM and I wouldn't say my standard met their precise description! biggrin.gif
mr bean
Nevertheless, you must have impressed them! smile.gif
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