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welshgirl1
Hi

My daughter has just started preparing for grade 4 clarinet. Chosen pieces are Evening, Peacherine Rag and either the Turn or the alternative Catch it.

Having a few problems getting some of the high notes consistently without squeks.

We have a new teacher as the previous one moved away. Happy with the new one but the advice on reaching the high notes differ.

The previous teacher advised to take mouthpiece, the current teacher suggests less mouthpiece. My daughter has said she finds it easier with more mouthpiece. Do I encourage her to try with less mouthpiece?

Are there any other tips for reaching the higher notes in these pieces?
Musical Maniac
When I play high notes i usually put more of the mouthpiece into my mouth. This may be the wrong way, but it works for me and i seem to be able to make the top notes sound okay.
She may also need to start using her diaphragm to increase the air pressure if she's still having trouble.
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Lucid
She should stick with using more mouthpiece as this is the correct way. The higher notes can be difficult to get consistently when you are first trying them so it's not a major problem and she's certainly got time to work on them. You could encourage her to do some extra tonework around those notes. For example she could play an ascending C major scale slurred starting on clarion C (3rd space of stave). The idea would be to gradually work up to the top C without any of the notes splitting. She shouldn't squeeze her embouchure to get any of the higher notes out. Once the C at the top of the scale is working well she can then progress to the altissimo C# and D. Once these notes are working well slurred she can then try tonguing up to them, which is usually more difficult.

I have accompanied Peacherine Rag before and think that the highest note is altissimo D. A trick to help her get the tone of that D would be to play a clarion F (top line of the stave) and while holding the note she should gradually slide the first finger of her left hand off of its key. This should produce an alitssimo D. Once she can achieve the D everytime this way without any splits or squeaks she can then try adding the right hand finger to the E flat key as she slides the first finger off, as that is the correct fingering for top D. Hopefully this will help her get more used to the tone and producing it. Its really a case of practising and doing a little more focused work until the notes can be played with confidence.

Lucid smile.gif
Clare1986
QUOTE(Lucid @ Aug 16 2009, 12:55 PM) *

She should stick with using more mouthpiece as this is the correct way. The higher notes can be difficult to get consistently when you are first trying them so it's not a major problem and she's certainly got time to work on them. You could encourage her to do some extra tonework around those notes. For example she could play an ascending C major scale slurred starting on clarion C (3rd space of stave). The idea would be to gradually work up to the top C without any of the notes splitting. She shouldn't squeeze her embouchure to get any of the higher notes out. Once the C at the top of the scale is working well she can then progress to the altissimo C# and D. Once these notes are working well slurred she can then try tonguing up to them, which is usually more difficult.

I have accompanied Peacherine Rag before and think that the highest note is altissimo D. A trick to help her get the tone of that D would be to play a clarion F (top line of the stave) and while holding the note she should gradually slide the first finger of her left hand off of its key. This should produce an alitssimo D. Once she can achieve the D everytime this way without any splits or squeaks she can then try adding the right hand finger to the E flat key as she slides the first finger off, as that is the correct fingering for top D. Hopefully this will help her get more used to the tone and producing it. Its really a case of practising and doing a little more focused work until the notes can be played with confidence.

Lucid smile.gif


Exactly the sort of things I was going to say. And I completely agree about the preparation work for the top D in Peacherine Rag.... you don't want it coming out as a squeak instead of a well prepared note! Another thing I'd suggest is really make sure there's a lot of air support behind the notes. It's amazing how much you can get away with "lazy" unsupported air on notes right up to top C but as soon as you go higher to the C# and D a lot more focus is needed.
welshgirl1
Thanks for the replies.

We will try these suggestions and I think the notes will improve with practice.

I think she just gets a bit frustrated when they do not come out right and can't always work out why.
As I am a completely non musical mum I can't be much help.
sbhoa
Along the same lines as Lucid and Clare1986 I did quite a lot of preparation work on higher notes before ever playing them in a piece. And I mean a few months.
laura-clarinet
I chose evening for grade 4, took me ages to get the rhythms right about 3/4 of the way through!!
barry-clari
QUOTE(sbhoa @ Aug 16 2009, 04:38 PM) *

Along the same lines as Lucid and Clare1986 I did quite a lot of preparation work on higher notes before ever playing them in a piece. And I mean a few months.


agree.gif , and doing it one note at a time is the way to go as regards high notes smile.gif
controller76
QUOTE(barry-clari @ Aug 16 2009, 10:07 PM) *

QUOTE(sbhoa @ Aug 16 2009, 04:38 PM) *

Along the same lines as Lucid and Clare1986 I did quite a lot of preparation work on higher notes before ever playing them in a piece. And I mean a few months.


agree.gif , and doing it one note at a time is the way to go as regards high notes smile.gif



agree.gif That old adage, 'Practice makes perfect', works well here.

Regards, Peter.
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