I put a certain paragraph I wrote earlier in bold now - that's all I can say about it. They want it, they'll get it. And probably won't buy it

Why would it be so bad if they won? Would you be required by law to buy their record? Have you forgotten where the off switch/channel changer is if they come on the radio/TV? Who cares if they "can't sing" (which, coming from as lame a performer as Cheryl Cole, is a total pot-kettle-black scenario) - neither can Frank Black, nor Iggy Pop, nor David Baker (Mercury Rev). Personally, I think their success is down to a public revulsion at the disgusting ad hominem remarks of Simon Cowell and Cheryl Cole - the John Sergeant effect.

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No need to be rude about it

I was just saying that it's unfair that they should be getting votes on a talent contest. Surely it can't be difficult to understand why that's frustrating.

Fully agree with Stephie here, although I think Edwardo is also right.

Maybe it is the public trying to get a go at Simon Cowell - he probably shouldn't have said it 'would be his worst nightmare' if they won - I think he'll still sleep very well indeed, no matter who wins

Off to teach the real talent now ...

I wasn't being rude.

However, it might be worth pointing out that it's not a talent contest, it's a television programme. It has one aim and one aim only - to make Simon Cowell money. It has a subsidiary side-effect, which is to "entertain". If it were a genuine talent contest it would need changing in the following regard:

a) Sack Louis Walsh - he gives people with a tin ear a bad name.
b) Sack Simon Cowell - he's only in it for the money, and is nothing but a glorified Corn Flakes salesman
c) Sack Cheryl Cole - unless you think a demonstrable paucity of singing talent is sufficient qualification
d) Sack Dannii Miinnogue - same reasons as c)

Replace the above with someone - anyone - with any critical faculty whatsoever. I'd suggest people like Guy Chambers, Trevor Horn, George Martin. YMMV.

Anyway, I'm going to break the habit of the last five years and vote for John and Edward. There's no-one else there who has a ghost of a chance of a career as a recording artist anyway, so why not have some fun? At least it will annoy Simon Cowell, which is money well spent.

He said on Saturday that he would leave the country if they win

Mind you, he said something similar about Daniel Evans last year and he didn't win...

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Bon Jovi were GREAT!

Tuning a bit off in places I thought though
I thought Rachel would be in bottom two, think she'll be gone tonight

I am so shocked This is preposterous. Rachel is incredible.

Lol, John and Edward are still going stong!

I think Rachel should've stayed but too many bottom two appearances went against her in the end...

She's definitely got better, I have to say...

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It's a shame, Rachel was really good on Saturday. The twins must go!

I'm glad Daniel wasn't in the bottom two this time - I enjoy his performances.

Why don't J&E get some singing lessons??

The cute little blond one (male not female!) really shouldn't have been singing last night - his throat was really sore.

Yeah, I was really pleased for Danyl, he looked so disheartened on Saturday night.

I won't rant about John and Edward because there's really no point anymore... I'm kind of resigned to the fact that they will probably win. Though I might not be so resigned if it comes to that.

Even if they do win, the more obvious candidates will probably have a chart career of some description. JLS didn't win, but they're doing well, the other one who immediately comes to mind is Lemar, who I think came 4th or 5th in Fame Academy, and he's done very well for himself.

Yes, and I saw something on the TV earlier about some girl who was apparently in it last year who's just releasing an album. I don't remember her, so she can't have got too far.

Ah yes that's Ruth Lorenzo. Think she's spanish. she got through to about the final 6 I think, something like that anyway

Laura White's releasing a new single next Monday, with an album to go with it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/You_Should_Have_Known

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Loved Rachel
Despise the twins!
Olly to win.

Diana Vickers is also in West ends rise and fall of little voice. although on listening to some of her songs, she really isnt all that good atall really.

Ruth Lorenzo + Laura White are fantabulous!

I heard on the radio this morning, that this weekend is Movie Theme week and John and Edward are doing Ghostbusters, complete with costumes.

Got to be worth a look for entertainment value

I don't think we have seen the last of these 2 yet.

Who you gonna call? John and Edward's vote line!

Unfortuntely not!!!
What worries me the most with these 2 is that they seem to be using more and more hairspray every week. By the time we get to the finals they could be responsible for a big hole in the ozone layer!!!

Can't wait to see this! You couldn't make it up!

I think they are hilarious but then again they must have known they couldn't sing before they entered. Perhaps I'm too cruel.

I don't think they are the most talented people on the show by any means and they shouldn't be in a singing competition at all. They are having fun and the public are enjoying it. Perhaps they'll make a career out of comedy.

I'm not sure about that! They're funny now because they're bad, but outside that... I can't remember who said it before, but maybe something with kids' presenting would be more down their road...

Because 4 year olds aren't really going to be so discerning about who presents their programmes!

Kids' TV seems to be the graveyard for irritating TV "personalities" these days! It's like a cupboard under the stairs where you stash stuff you don't want out in plain view!

I definately see them going down the kids tv route.

I don't think they would mind the odd gunging on a Saturday morning!

Can't wait to see Saturday's X factor though, from what I heard it promises to be very entertaining.

That's exactly what it is! Couldn't have put it better myself.

Fantastic! I can't wait!

Me, via PM to you, I think!

Aha! That would be it...

Here they come...

At least they told us who's whom this time

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Yes, they did.

Useful for people like me, who took a good couple of years to work out which one was Ant and which one was Dec

So...will JoMook have to change her signature?...

No, she won't!!!

who was voted off tonight?

Lucie. John and Edward and Lucie were in the bottom 2, Simon took it to deadlock, and the public votes placed Lucie at the bottom of the pile.

That is ridiculous! she could sing! I like John and Edward but I don't think they can sing!!!

Tactical voting at its worst!!!

about 90% of my facebook friends have changed their status to reflect shock and horror at Simon Cowell's actions tonight. kudos to him, he's obviously got exactly what he wanted. I don't know why people call him talentless. He's obviously awesome at manipulating the general public.

WHAT??!!!

I saw this around my sister's place last night, and thought Lucie was great despite the cheesy song. Is it just me or was she mimicking that Essex girl's accent in her post performance interview? I was a bit confused seeing as she spoke normally in the pre-performance film clip?

I really shouldn't watch this trash. I feel like I've commited some sort of cardinal cultural sin by allowing myself to be exposed.

I thought this was shocking, and felt so sorry for poor Lucie . I didn't rate her song on Saturday, and had thought she might well be in the bottom two along with Lloyd (now how did HE escape the bottom two??), but yesterday she sang very well indeed. What with Simon banging on continuously about it being a SINGING competition, and then Cheryl giving her the thumbs-up, Lucie must have been feeling fairly confident at that point that it would be the twins who would go. Simon's subsequent decision made for very uncomfortable viewing - I'm sure most of the audience, both there and on TV, must have thought it was unfair. I must say that it's certainly lowered Simon Cowell in my estimation, and gives weight to the rumours that he had said in the early stages of the competition that the twins were tipped for the top....

What no-one else I've seen seems to have noticed is that the Jedward cheated (or, more likely, Louis did): their "survival song" (which, like all the songs except Big Band Week, had a pre-recorded backing) was stuffed to the gunwales with backing vocals including lines that were very close to the main melody. All the Jedward had to do was "sing" a bit quieter and lo! it appeared that they were singing in tune.

I noticed this the first time they sang this - in week 1 I think. It's a Robbie Williams song and it sounded as though the original vocals were still on the chorus - although I don't know the song very well. I was surprised first time round when Simon never even mentioned it as I would have expected him to pick up on that and point it out.

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The problem is that Simon is almost as tin-eared as Louis - he's basically just a very successful salesman, and not the impresario/A & R man that he fondly thinks he is. Lucie would be better off in the West End anyway, while John and Edward seem like ideal replacements for Ant 'n' Dec - just about as funny, and just about as easy to tell apart.

He he he. Mr Cowell knows what he's doing.

Haven't yet seen this week's, but I don't understand this sing-off of the bottom 2 contestants. For the past 3 weeks at least it seems that the judges votes have been level for each candidate, so the public vote has won the day which makes the whole exercise seem rather pointless...

So how did Simon vote this time? Not in favour of the twins surely??

Got it in one!!! The thing is in American Idol there isn't a judges vote and it's all on public vote. I think it is just to add to the Pantomime effect and give the judges something else to bicker about

Weird!

Well at least now if John and Edward win, then its Simon's fault, because he had the opportunity to vote them off!