QUOTE(skylark @ Oct 29 2009, 08:52 AM)

QUOTE(RoseRodent @ Oct 29 2009, 08:24 AM)

"you shouldn't let the pain get in the way of anything".
This isn't particularly in response to you, RoseRodent, but what you've said brought to mind something which a friend told me many years ago and it's always stuck in my mind. She was disabled through a chronic and very painful condition, and attended a two-week residential chronic pain management course. One of the things she learnt was that she was stuck with the pain for the rest of her life and nothing could alter that, so she could either try and do things and have the pain; or not do things and have the pain. Either way, she would have the pain. I'm recounting this not because I think it might be relevant to you, RoseRodent, because I'm sure you know this if you've had your condition for a long time, but the thought has been helpful to me not just in the medical sense but because it translates to so many different situations as well so I thought I'd share it.
If properly phrased and delivered it's good advice for a condition they have properly established to be untreatable. Sadly my friend was told this at her first appointment. She turned out to have rheumatoid arthritis, and there is a whole heck of a lot that can be done for her. If she'd followed their advice to grit her teeth and get on with it (alongside the completely contradictory "don't pick up your baby") she'd have been much cheaper for the NHS I am sure, but she'd have suffered for no reason. It's all about context, I suppose. Same as the hairdressing example, if you have already tried everything and nothing works then considering the idea of giving up (and understanding it's a bombshell to the patient and delivering it with according tact!!) is relevant, but not as an
alternative to trying treatment.