Help - Search - Members - Calendar
Full Version: Bow In The Case?
Forums > Viva Network > Viva Strings
Cellist
Do you guys place the bow together with the instrument into the same case?
since rosin would negatively affect an instrument,
i thought it wouldnt be advisable to keep the bow in the same case as the instrument

am i right? tongue.gif
Jacobi
QUOTE(Violin Hero @ Oct 23 2009, 08:17 AM) *

Also how does rosin negatively affect an instrument, otherwise people would not use it!


Rosin coming into contact with varnish isn't so great as it may stick to it etc

You can put violins in pillow cases before putting them in the case then there is no chance of any rosin falling on the varnish.
I'm not sure how bows fit in cello cases but I guess you could do something similar
Little Elf
you can buy violin bow cases which are separate to the instrument case e.g. here

and here is a case with a separate bow tube

I wouldn't say it was the norm though.... most people I know put their bows in the same case and put a cover/duster or something similar over the violin before shutting the case.

not sure how it works for cello... there must be something similar
Violin Hero
QUOTE(Little Elf @ Oct 23 2009, 08:37 AM) *

you can buy violin bow cases which are separate to the instrument case e.g. here

and here is a case with a separate bow tube

I wouldn't say it was the norm though.... most people I know put their bows in the same case and put a cover/duster or something similar over the violin before shutting the case.

not sure how it works for cello... there must be something similar


Of all the orchestras I have been in or am in I have never seen a cellist bring a bow seperately to their case with instrument in it. I presume there is a bow holder in the cello case.
kerioboe
There is a separate sort of pocket on the front of soft cello cases in which you put the bow.

My daughter's teachers (who have expensive bows) put the bow in a wooden case and then put this in the pocket on the cello case. This is, however, to protect the bow NOT the cello. (It was impressed upon my daughter when she first started that you must always take the bow out before taking the cello out otherwise you can end up bending the case and snapping the bow).
Wolfnotes
Soft cello cases or gig bags have a pocket on the front of the instrument for the bow - kerioboe is absolutely right, it pays to take the bow out first before unpacking the cello, then put the cello in the case after you have finished using it BEFORE you put the bow away........otherwise a broken bow is a very real possibility (can damage the cello too, if it digs into the cello!). Hard cases are similar to violin cases - they have a couple of clips to hold the bow so that it is kept separate from the cello. Haven't seen a duster in a cello case, though I have seen cloths or covers in violin cases - not sure why this is, other than violins being fragile little flowers? biggrin.gif

Rosin - there is usually a pocket on the front of a soft case to put rosin and mutes and such like (soft cloth to clean cello etc). My soft case also has a zip compartment on the back for music and spare strings. Hard case had a section with a flap cover inside the case where you could stow rosin and the rest (new hard case is on my wish list as old hard case is ENORMOUSLY heavy and new cello doesn't fit in it.....now there's a trap for young players, not all full size cellos are the same size blush.gif Not that it would have stopped me buying the new cello - and anyway, we can't fit both daughter's 3/4 and my full size in the car boot if either was in a hard case).

Cellist, this is a reasonable question (especially for one who is just starting out, as you are) - I wouldn't want my bow in with my cello without some sort of protection (as you get when you use a case, as stated above) as rosin off the hair isn't great for the varnish or the strings and the bow could easily scratch the cello or be damaged by the cello. Hope this helps and is what you were after! biggrin.gif How are you going with beating the family and friends off your cello? Have they realised yet that you are deadly serious now and touching the cello could result in very unpleasant consequences? laugh.gif Hope you are enjoying your cello journey.

Wolfnotes
ffliwt
I have 3 bows in my violin case and i wondered the same thing - so i have a silk bag for my violin smile.gif Problem solved!
Cellist
appreciate all the replies biggrin.gif
maybe i will get a cloth or just place it aside

QUOTE(Wolfnotes @ Oct 23 2009, 09:33 AM) *


Cellist, this is a reasonable question (especially for one who is just starting out, as you are) - I wouldn't want my bow in with my cello without some sort of protection (as you get when you use a case, as stated above) as rosin off the hair isn't great for the varnish or the strings and the bow could easily scratch the cello or be damaged by the cello. Hope this helps and is what you were after! biggrin.gif How are you going with beating the family and friends off your cello? Have they realised yet that you are deadly serious now and touching the cello could result in very unpleasant consequences? laugh.gif Hope you are enjoying your cello journey.

Wolfnotes


biggrin.gif just a padlock to comfort me while am not at home

however theres a little princess party1.gif in the house i couldnt do much about ohmy.gif
rosfrog
QUOTE(Violin Hero @ Oct 23 2009, 07:17 AM) *

Your question is strange!

Of course one keeps the bow in the same caseas instrument. Who takes 2 cases with them?

Also how does rosin negatively affect an instrument, otherwise people would not use it!

Your question is strange!

Of course one keeps the bow in the same caseas instrument. Who takes 2 c


What a rude answer.

I know several professional violinists who carry their bows separately in cases of their own, and one cellist who does to. Admittedly these are bows costing more than the average car, so perhaps some kind of extra protection is necessary.

The majority of players do put them in the same case, though - although some kind of precaution is taken to avoid rosin coming into contact with instrument varnish.
Wolfnotes
QUOTE(Cellist @ Oct 23 2009, 05:42 PM) *


biggrin.gif just a padlock to comfort me while am not at home

however theres a little princess party1.gif in the house i couldnt do much about ohmy.gif


Ah yes, the little princess factor. Can I suggest some cautionary tales - you could tell her the story of Sleeping Beauty and what happened when she touched the spindle which she had been told never to touch (going to sleep for a hundred years might just make your princess think twice!). Of course this does cast you in the role of the Wicked Fairy (but I think I could live with being wicked if it meant my cello was safe from naughty little hands..... biggrin.gif )

Wolfnotes
Cellist
[/quote]

Ah yes, the little princess factor. Can I suggest some cautionary tales - you could tell her the story of Sleeping Beauty and what happened when she touched the spindle which she had been told never to touch (going to sleep for a hundred years might just make your princess think twice!). Of course this does cast you in the role of the Wicked Fairy (but I think I could live with being wicked if it meant my cello was safe from naughty little hands..... biggrin.gif )

Wolfnotes
[/quote]


biggrin.gif
musbird
The only time I would keep my bow out of the violin case is if I were to go on holiday....I could be wrong but I think I read that the bows can get "nits" that eat away at the hair should it be stored for long periods without use.

Other than that I have 2 bows stored in the case with a little cover over the violin.
Violin Hero
QUOTE(musbird @ Oct 25 2009, 11:18 PM) *

The only time I would keep my bow out of the violin case is if I were to go on holiday....I could be wrong but I think I read that the bows can get "nits" that eat away at the hair should it be stored for long periods without use.

Other than that I have 2 bows stored in the case with a little cover over the violin.


I am exactly the same. This will never be a problem so long as the case is decent quality. I have left my bow in the cae with violin for as long as two weeks without playing when I went away and was unable to take instrument with me. The bows was in the same condition when I returned.
This is a "lo-fi" version of our main content. To view the full version with more information, formatting and images, please click here.