Being a Twihard Robsessed individual, I'm dying to know what grade piano he has. He played Bella's Lullaby in Twilight, and I know he always wanted to play piano for a career before he started acting.

Anyone also obsessed got any idea on his standard?

Are you sure he did Abrsm exams ?

He went to school in London so there's a chance he might have done them

Well there's no helping it. I'm going to HAVE to kidnap him and, after convincing him to live with me...ask him

if he goes missing, we know where to look

We'll elope you'll never find us MWAHAHAHAHA

Elope as much as you like by me aesir, I can't stand him, I reckon you'd be doing the world a great service

Are you serious???!!!!
He's HOT! lolllll
PSL

Really can't see what's so hot about him. There are hotter characters about.

Not according to my 12 year old daughter.... who has posters of him in her room. In fact her room could be seen as a shrine to him!!!! .... but then aesir- she is 12!

Oh my good God I think I'm actually going to cry. How did you manage to type those words? I don't understand, it shouldn't have been possible!!

Can I have Jasper or Carlisle? Or both?

I'm told the books are far superior to the films and I hope so. Frankly, I wanted to slap him when I saw the movie (a bonding session with niece).

I'm with FranPiano on this - I don't see the attraction either. A good thing for those that do I guess - one less competitor for his undead affections!

Just out of interest what age group is the OP in? Maybe it's an age thing, though I've heard on the radio that he has many "mum-fans".

Lol I'd struggle being a mum I think! I'm 26. The books are...different lol. The films and the books are both good and bad in their own way. Worth a read, even if you're not a fan. They are well written. Or am I biased.........

I take back, I prefer Carlisle, he's just so manly!!! LOL

You can have Carlisle, may I have Jasper please?

Who is Robert Pattison?

Him

One of my best friends is mad about him, but I think he looks like he needs a good holiday in the sun!

I always wondered why he looks so pale and aneamic when he's drinking so much blood, I mean surley his iron levels should be pretty sufficient.
Okay PSL it's just a film!!!
LOL

Looks like he could do with a haircut. And I bet he doesn't iron his shirts or polish his shoes!

Standards are slipping...

No, no, no. Just no. The books are even more disturbing than the films. I used to really like them, but when I read them through with a critical eye, I was horrified. They're really badly written - and very sexist. Edward is basically a stalker, and both Edward and Jacob spend their lives attempting to control Bella. Bella, of course, has no thoughts which are not about either Edward or Jacob...

One high point is when Jacob attempts to kiss Bella... Bella struggles, pushes him away, and says no... She punches him and tells him never to try it again. Her father, upon finding out that this has happened, laughs and says something like "nice one Jacob"... When Jacob later emotionally blackmails Bella, forcing her to kiss him again, she suddenly realises that, huh! She was wrong! She does want to kiss Jacob! Because as we all know, "no" really means that the girl is just confused and needs to be persuaded that she actually means yes... I realise it's just kissing and therefore not overtly rape-y (can I use that made up word here?) but it parallels more disturbing literature in my opinion.

Similarly, Edward, the guy Bella actually ends up with overtly tells her "I am dangerous, I really want to kill you, a lot". He manages to overcome his murderous impulses purely due to love for Bella. More horrible messages here... Abusive/murderous impulses can be cured by the power of love... Great. Not to mention the fact that the bloodlust in the book is a fairly clear metaphor for actual lust... So the idea that, really it's an immense challenge to this guy NOT to attack Bella, and that that's romantic... is just creepy...

I'm just glad I realised what I was reading on the second look through - and I'm extra glad that my little sister has never shown any interest in the books.

Having said that, I have nothing against Robert Pattinson himself. I'm tickled that he seems, in interviews, to understand that the character he plays is severely disturbed. My sister has posters of him too.

I'm going to be shot by a million Twilight fans now, aren't I?

Some actor or other - but he's only a CHILD (born in the mid-1980s I think). He was in Vanity Fayre while he was still in short trousers, then he played Cedric Diggory in one of the Harry Potter films.

I was born in the mid 1980s.... I'm 25, does that make me a child too?

Me too I was born in 1984.

He does polish his shoes. I asked him. And I iron his shirts for him so they're nicely pressed and his hair is amazing.

I thought he was good as Cedric Diggory, but haven't seen anything of Twilight except a trailer on the TV. My son and nephew were forced to sit through the film with a couple of their girl friends and said it was absolute rubbish. Critically aware? Or just jealous of the adoration directed at RP and others? Hmmm - I wouldn't care to guess



This sounds like the worst kind of literature that comes within what is called the 'romance genre' - I've read some discussion threads on Amazon (please don't ask me how I ended up in that section, it's all a bit of a blur ) and this would fit right in there. Alpha males who know exactly what they want and take it, and girls who don't know what they want until it's already happened to them, but it's OK because it was really what they wanted more than anything else in the world. So that's alright, then

Yep!

and Yep!

My eldest niece was born in 1986 and I'm FAAAR too young to have adult nieces and nephews.


Just got to add a thumbs up to the concerns raised above by Lucky045 and Crotchetymum - where'd feminism go anyone?

It got replaced by the false idea of "female empowerment" - just look at the music channels to see what I mean. How showing your bits in some bloke's rap videos amounts to "empowerment", I'll never know. I think they mixed that word up with "exploitation".

Call me old-fashioned or whatever, but I don't like the side-effect where "equality" suddenly meant some girls deciding that behaving like blokes would be a good idea, when in reality, it really doesn't suit them... A case of just because you can, doesn't mean you should. IMHO, of course.

Since you are younger than my children then from my point of view it possibly does.

Having said that my clarinet teacher is also younger than my children but there's no doubt about who's in charge there.....

I don't think its belittling to women at all. Bella knows what she wants - Edward. And even when he tries and tries consistently to say no, its not a life he wants her to live, she is adamant that she can make her own choices and will. When Jacob chases her she says firmly that yes she loves him but can't be with him because she wants Edward. I'd say Bella has the strongest character. She constantly sticks up for her beliefs and opinions and morals in a town where people think differently.

Aren't two books dedicated to her inability to decide what she wants: Jacob or Edward? New Moon and Eclipse are both about that.



But only about him. She chooses Edward, and then he's the only thing in her life. She has nothing else. Her life is so empty without Edward that in New Moon, Stephenie Meyer uses blank pages with month names on them to signify Bella's life without him. She chooses to focus on a man, and have no autonomous life.

Anyway, Bella doesn't choose. Edward decides she should live her life without him. He then leaves. She shuts down. How is that exercising her choice? The only thing that wakes Bella up again when she is in this state is... Her relationship with another man.
Ultimately Edward makes the decision to come back and be in Bella's life again. Bella has control of none of this. Bella doesn't have control of anything. Bella doesn't do anything - things just happen to her.



She says that firmly, yes. Then he forces her to kiss him. Then she decides that she didn't know what she meant and didn't know what she wanted, because she loves Jacob... Obviously Jacob and Edward knew what she wanted much better than she did.
Ultimately, yes! She makes her one decision - Edward over Jacob. Are you saying that in choosing a man, she's taken control of her entire life? I think that's what Meyer implies, but also that it's inherently problematic. She can choose a man, and then he will ensure that life keeps just happening to her. He takes control of everything from that point on...


I'm not sure what your evidence for this is. In what way is Bella a rebel? She has nothing to rebel against. I suppose her father makes a perfunctory effort to prevent her from seeing Edward, but it's never presented as something that she has to fight against. There is no small-town mindset against which she rebels...

To rebel, you'd have to have a personality, and a system of values beyond: "Oooh! Pretty sparkles!"

I've read the books, seen the films, but I don't think about it as much as others do

Lol! Guess it depends on your own perspective, as with any character in any book. I, and many others, interpret her as a strong character. Just as many others I'm sure interpret her as being a weak character.

Well, having watched the first two films in the last 24 hours (Jack Bauer sytlee) I would say that she is a rebel and not weak at all. She WANTS to be vampire and I'm not entirely sure that is because she loves Edward. I will watch the third one and ramble some more about this tomorrow.

I have been quite bored by these films and some of the acting is VERY poor (although I think Kristen Stewart is quite good). I can't even see what teenage girls get out of them that they can't get from the likes of gossip girl/OC/one tree hill/dawsons creek to be honest. They're not even scary.
(Don't burn my cathedral down Aesir )

P.S. not read the books

What everyone seems to be forgetting here is that in real life vampires are not at all like they are presented in films and on TV. They are ugly, disgusting, and scary ... in fact, not very nice at all.

And that's what annoys me, he was in Harry Potter (an impossibly better book series!!) first and nobody cared about him then!!

Some of us did I do like Robert Pattinson, but much more when he's not Edward! In fact, I'm not a fan of the films much at all, mainly because I think they're ridiculous books to try and turn in to films when, especially in Twilight, most of the plot development happens in Bella's head!

But slights back on topic, I have no idea about technical ability, but it would seem the RP has a fair amount of musically; I actually really like his singing and I think there's a lot of sensitivity in the guitar playing at the start of Never Think.

And just to clarify (I'm a geek ), he didn't actually play Bella's Lullaby on the soundtrack, but I think there's extra footage of him playing it on set and he may well have been playing it in the scene, but they didn't use that audio.

I second this

You will be killed...

I don't take kindly to death threats...

Your instrument will be killed (or stolen, if its a piano or violin )

Nooooo! I only just got it! [oboe ]

Hmmmm I will consult with my Robert and see if he wants it or not. He might if its shiny. He's fickle for shiny things. Look at his skin!

Well he's not getting it! I'll keep it with me at all times.

Well he is releasing a piano album. Clearly I will be pre-ordering that when it becomes available!!!!! He looks so cool when he plays!