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Hammerklavier
Hello,

I have been having terrible problems with the performance of my right hand when at the piano. It has been a problem for three years and in the last 12 months, has become increasingly worse. During the past 6 months, it has deteriorated so much that I can now barely play. I have been to see a hand specialist and have been told that I have Focal Dystonia. Having researched the condition and discovered that quite a few musicians are afflicted with this condition, including some very well-known performers, I thought I would ask and see if any Forum readers know anything about it or have had experience of it and most importantly, suggestions on how to overcome it

I have to see a Neurologist as a next step and have been told that I am likely to face a long and arduous path in attempting to overcome it.

Thank you.

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pianoeater
I know nothing about focal dystonia but there is a well known piano pedagogue Rae de Lisle who teaches at the University of Auckalnd, New Zealand. From what I know she's quite an expert on the subject though I know she might not be much help if you're in the UK.

Really sorry to hear this. Best of luck in overcoming it.
katica
QUOTE(Hammerklavier @ Dec 18 2010, 12:12 PM) *

Hello,

I have been having terrible problems with the performance of my right hand when at the piano. It has been a problem for three years and in the last 12 months, has become increasingly worse. During the past 6 months, it has deteriorated so much that I can now barely play. I have been to see a hand specialist and have been told that I have Focal Dystonia. Having researched the condition and discovered that quite a few musicians are afflicted with this condition, including some very well-known performers, I thought I would ask and see if any Forum readers know anything about it or have had experience of it and most importantly, suggestions on how to overcome it

I have to see a Neurologist as a next step and have been told that I am likely to face a long and arduous path in attempting to overcome it.

Thank you.

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What terrible news, Hammerklavier. Condolences!!! thereThere.gif I hope you find ways to continue enjoying music.

The oboist Alex Klein, formerly of the Chicago Symphony Orchestra, suffers from dystonia. Indeed, htat is why he left the orchestra. He seems to be dedicating more time to conducting. He does in fact continue to play the oboe, though they tell me it's only for an hour a day or so.
morton
QUOTE(katica @ Dec 18 2010, 08:14 PM) *

QUOTE(Hammerklavier @ Dec 18 2010, 12:12 PM) *

Hello,

I have been having terrible problems with the performance of my right hand when at the piano. It has been a problem for three years and in the last 12 months, has become increasingly worse. During the past 6 months, it has deteriorated so much that I can now barely play. I have been to see a hand specialist and have been told that I have Focal Dystonia. Having researched the condition and discovered that quite a few musicians are afflicted with this condition, including some very well-known performers, I thought I would ask and see if any Forum readers know anything about it or have had experience of it and most importantly, suggestions on how to overcome it

I have to see a Neurologist as a next step and have been told that I am likely to face a long and arduous path in attempting to overcome it.

Thank you.

sad.gif


What terrible news, Hammerklavier. Condolences!!! thereThere.gif I hope you find ways to continue enjoying music.

The oboist Alex Klein, formerly of the Chicago Symphony Orchestra, suffers from dystonia. Indeed, htat is why he left the orchestra. He seems to be dedicating more time to conducting. He does in fact continue to play the oboe, though they tell me it's only for an hour a day or so.

Yes, I have read about this quite often, mostly about embouchures of horn players and oboists. Sad to say, I seem to remember that it gets worse if you continue to play, after you have noticed that there is a problem. I think I have read that it is a neurological problem and that there is nothing wrong with the muscles involved. I expect that you can use your hand normally for other tasks, but it just doesn't work when you play the piano? From what I have read recovery takes a long time.
Arundodonuts
QUOTE(morton @ Dec 18 2010, 08:42 PM) *

QUOTE(katica @ Dec 18 2010, 08:14 PM) *

QUOTE(Hammerklavier @ Dec 18 2010, 12:12 PM) *

Hello,

I have been having terrible problems with the performance of my right hand when at the piano. It has been a problem for three years and in the last 12 months, has become increasingly worse. During the past 6 months, it has deteriorated so much that I can now barely play. I have been to see a hand specialist and have been told that I have Focal Dystonia. Having researched the condition and discovered that quite a few musicians are afflicted with this condition, including some very well-known performers, I thought I would ask and see if any Forum readers know anything about it or have had experience of it and most importantly, suggestions on how to overcome it

I have to see a Neurologist as a next step and have been told that I am likely to face a long and arduous path in attempting to overcome it.

Thank you.

sad.gif


What terrible news, Hammerklavier. Condolences!!! thereThere.gif I hope you find ways to continue enjoying music.

The oboist Alex Klein, formerly of the Chicago Symphony Orchestra, suffers from dystonia. Indeed, htat is why he left the orchestra. He seems to be dedicating more time to conducting. He does in fact continue to play the oboe, though they tell me it's only for an hour a day or so.

Yes, I have read about this quite often, mostly about embouchures of horn players and oboists. Sad to say, I seem to remember that it gets worse if you continue to play, after you have noticed that there is a problem. I think I have read that it is a neurological problem and that there is nothing wrong with the muscles involved. I expect that you can use your hand normally for other tasks, but it just doesn't work when you play the piano? From what I have read recovery takes a long time.

I haven't heard about it affecting embouchure (EDIT, er I've just been informed that when a player's lip "goes", that can be dystonia) but I do know of Alex Klein's problem as mentioned by katica. I saw him at the RNCM a while ago and he still has the most incredible dexterity, though he has to manage the problem by not overdoing things. He also has some minor modifications to the keywork on his oboe to slightly adjust the position of his fingers. As far as I know, it isn't something you recover from. It has to be understood and worked with. But the good news is, as you say Hammerklavier, it is a condition known to musicians who have learned to live with it.
PhilipS
QUOTE(Hammerklavier @ Dec 18 2010, 06:12 PM) *

Hello,

I have been having terrible problems with the performance of my right hand when at the piano. It has been a problem for three years and in the last 12 months, has become increasingly worse. During the past 6 months, it has deteriorated so much that I can now barely play. I have been to see a hand specialist and have been told that I have Focal Dystonia. Having researched the condition and discovered that quite a few musicians are afflicted with this condition, including some very well-known performers, I thought I would ask and see if any Forum readers know anything about it or have had experience of it and most importantly, suggestions on how to overcome it

I have to see a Neurologist as a next step and have been told that I am likely to face a long and arduous path in attempting to overcome it.

Thank you.

sad.gif


I would advise you to temporarily stop playing with immediate effect. Believe me, no amount of ?practise? will help: indeed it will only worsen the situation, making any sort of recovery more difficult. Your doctor/neurologist should also check that you do not have mechanical problems as well - such as Carpal Tunnel Syndrome. Most FD sufferers also have one or more mechanical problems on top of FD, often as a result of frustrated attempts to play.

I sympathise for you. We are told that FD is a greatly feared condition, but most musicians have never heard of it - unless it affects them. Then it consumes their lives. I can empathise too because I was diagnosed with FD six years ago.

As you probably now know there is no cure for FD and it has ruined many careers in music. However, while not curative there are palliative or remedial techniques that help. Some musicians may resume professional playing, although they are a minority.

It is thought that FD, a neurological condition, arises from the smearing of digital representation in the somatosensory cortex of the brain. With practise and specialisation these areas expand and begin to overlap. Confused signals are sent by the brain, so that there is a lack of coordination and muscles simultaneously flex and extend - hence the term musicians? cramp. If a pianist then your ulnar digits are probably affected (4th and 5th fingers). Efforts to train these anatomically restricted fingers - by such destructive means as Pischna or Hanon, or endless repetition of a difficult piece - probably cause the smearing.

One remedial technique is derived from Constraint Induced Movement Therapy (CIMT) used for stroke victims, and is often referred to as Sensory Motor Retuning (SMR). Here an analysis of movement is made to identify the compensatory movements the body makes to overcome dystonic flexion. These movements are immobilised so that the dystonic digit(s) is forced to work with a healthy one - and all other movement is eliminated. This process is repeated systematically with other digits over a year and gradually retunes digital representation with varied degrees of success. All pianists and string players register improvement.

Another option are injections of botulinum toxin (Dysport or Botox) into the flexing muscle using a scanner. This interrupts neural transmitters and stops flexion. The effect is temporary and injections are required every three months. Also, by paralysing a muscle or muscle-group your playing will still be affected, albeit for different reasons.

Yet another technique is movement retraining, which takes an holistic approach. Or heightening sensitivity with the afflicted digits by reading Braille.

Acupuncture, massaging, faith-healing, meditation etc will not work. Massaging may alleviate stiffness, but will do nothing to alter the brain. It is purely palliative.

The best option is to use everything available in combination. MSR does work in time, and should be followed by retraining using a different technique. That, at least, is my recommendation.

I can play again, but with a vastly different technique that relies chiefly on intrinsic muscles. The tone is much smaller and the balance remains fragile: I still spend an hour each day on CIMT/SMR. The main point, however, is that there is still life and hope after diagnosis. Be kind to yourself.

Hammerklavier
Thanks Philip S for your reply.

I am seeing a physio tomorrow in London who specialises in FD amongst other things. Interestingly, my main problem is my second finger which locks against the middle finger, particularly when I play an ascending scale or arpeggio.

I have been told by both the hand specialists and the Neurologist who I saw that it is very important to continue playing pieces as best as I can but very slowly and to do this even if it is uncomfortable. They said that it is vital to remind the brain that playing can be achieved although perhaps not in the way that I would like to play. I've been doing this succesfully and I am fortunate that at least as things stand at this moment, all my fingers do work in some way. I realise things could be much worse.

I'll post again when I know more.

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PhilipS
More on FD.

The homunculus is a body map of brain power devoted to process touch receptors. You will see from a representative model that the hands and fingers of the homunculus achieve huge proportions. Unfortunately the abnormality of the normal homuncular organization of the finger representations becomes hard-wired with FD and is therefore very difficult to normalise.

Whatever barriers you build to block dystonia it will always find a way in. For example, some sufferers find that they can deceive dystonia by sensory tricks - like wearing a latex glove. The trick may work and dystonic reaction deceived. But the relief is only ever temporary (a minute or so) since your dystonia will find a workaround to plague you once more. Likewise, altering your seating position, angle of wrist, position of arms and hands may all improve your playing, but only for a very short time. I daresay you will try all this in the early stages, but to save you heartache I can guarantee that they will not work. Some people have even spent years in fruitless experimentation. Neither will dystonia 'dry-up' if you do not play for a year, ten years or even longer.

Useful ideas to take on board include playing below the threshold of dystonia. This means playing slowly (and I do mean slowly) and softly to the point where dystonia does not intervene and then gradually building up from level zero. One Asian concert pianist in the USA has recovered using this technique. A traffic light scenario is also useful. Here you stop at the point where dystonia intervenes, relax, refocus and carefully move on. With practise the 'bump' may be shortened to the point where it becomes imperceptible. The point of these techniques is to encourage and register clean signals and clean movements.

However, the best method of recovery (in my opinion) is to take the CIMT/SMR route. This will effect change where change is really needed - in the brain. If you are patient enough (and tough enough) to undergo therapy for the requisite time then there is no reason why your condition should not significantly improve. Retraining then becomes much more viable, but you will probably have to abandon most of your present neural pathways. In short, effect a complete change in technique and approach as I have done. Hard as it sounds there is no going back once you have FD. It?s too late for that.

At least we live in a more enlightened era of medical knowledge. Not so long ago the condition was dismissed as hysteria and sufferers more likely to be referred to a psychiatrist then a neurologist. Science-based approaches to treatment have come a long way in the last twenty years and the prognosis for FD better with it. Take heart and remember that 'no cure' is NOT the same as 'no recovery'.

Hopefully my brutally frank prognosis is tempered by enough positives to see you through.


QUOTE(PhilipS @ Jan 10 2011, 04:43 PM) *

QUOTE(Hammerklavier @ Dec 18 2010, 06:12 PM) *

Hello,

I have been having terrible problems with the performance of my right hand when at the piano. It has been a problem for three years and in the last 12 months, has become increasingly worse. During the past 6 months, it has deteriorated so much that I can now barely play. I have been to see a hand specialist and have been told that I have Focal Dystonia. Having researched the condition and discovered that quite a few musicians are afflicted with this condition, including some very well-known performers, I thought I would ask and see if any Forum readers know anything about it or have had experience of it and most importantly, suggestions on how to overcome it

I have to see a Neurologist as a next step and have been told that I am likely to face a long and arduous path in attempting to overcome it.

Thank you.

sad.gif


Glad to hear that you can still play at least a little. Some musicians end up completely crippled and cannot play a single measure cleanly. Sounds like you are 'fortunate' enough to know what the problem is early on when remedial action is easier.

Good luck tomorrow.



I would advise you to temporarily stop playing with immediate effect. Believe me, no amount of ?practise? will help: indeed it will only worsen the situation, making any sort of recovery more difficult. Your doctor/neurologist should also check that you do not have mechanical problems as well - such as Carpal Tunnel Syndrome. Most FD sufferers also have one or more mechanical problems on top of FD, often as a result of frustrated attempts to play.

I sympathise for you. We are told that FD is a greatly feared condition, but most musicians have never heard of it - unless it affects them. Then it consumes their lives. I can empathise too because I was diagnosed with FD six years ago.

As you probably now know there is no cure for FD and it has ruined many careers in music. However, while not curative there are palliative or remedial techniques that help. Some musicians may resume professional playing, although they are a minority.

It is thought that FD, a neurological condition, arises from the smearing of digital representation in the somatosensory cortex of the brain. With practise and specialisation these areas expand and begin to overlap. Confused signals are sent by the brain, so that there is a lack of coordination and muscles simultaneously flex and extend - hence the term musicians? cramp. If a pianist then your ulnar digits are probably affected (4th and 5th fingers). Efforts to train these anatomically restricted fingers - by such destructive means as Pischna or Hanon, or endless repetition of a difficult piece - probably cause the smearing.

One remedial technique is derived from Constraint Induced Movement Therapy (CIMT) used for stroke victims, and is often referred to as Sensory Motor Retuning (SMR). Here an analysis of movement is made to identify the compensatory movements the body makes to overcome dystonic flexion. These movements are immobilised so that the dystonic digit(s) is forced to work with a healthy one - and all other movement is eliminated. This process is repeated systematically with other digits over a year and gradually retunes digital representation with varied degrees of success. All pianists and string players register improvement.

Another option are injections of botulinum toxin (Dysport or Botox) into the flexing muscle using a scanner. This interrupts neural transmitters and stops flexion. The effect is temporary and injections are required every three months. Also, by paralysing a muscle or muscle-group your playing will still be affected, albeit for different reasons.

Yet another technique is movement retraining, which takes an holistic approach. Or heightening sensitivity with the afflicted digits by reading Braille.

Acupuncture, massaging, faith-healing, meditation etc will not work. Massaging may alleviate stiffness, but will do nothing to alter the brain. It is purely palliative.

The best option is to use everything available in combination. MSR does work in time, and should be followed by retraining using a different technique. That, at least, is my recommendation.

I can play again, but with a vastly different technique that relies chiefly on intrinsic muscles. The tone is much smaller and the balance remains fragile: I still spend an hour each day on CIMT/SMR. The main point, however, is that there is still life and hope after diagnosis. Be kind to yourself.

Hammerklavier
Thanks again Philips. Sorry, I've lost track. Can you tell me what you mean by CIMT/SMR?

For your own information, you might like to look up a New Zealand concert pianist, Michael Houstoun. He has Focal Dystonia and has managed to overcome it with a number of different approaches. His story is very interesting for anybody who has the condition.

Thanks!
muffinmonster
Hi Hammerklavier

Have just seen this thread and am really sorry to hear you are having these problems. Was the neurologist able to help at all?

It sounds as if there are grounds for hope, even if it means you relearn how to play. I hope you are able to find a way forward.
PhilipS
QUOTE(Hammerklavier @ Jan 11 2011, 08:41 AM) *

Thanks again Philips. Sorry, I've lost track. Can you tell me what you mean by CIMT/SMR?

For your own information, you might like to look up a New Zealand concert pianist, Michael Houstoun. He has Focal Dystonia and has managed to overcome it with a number of different approaches. His story is very interesting for anybody who has the condition.

Thanks!


Yes, I?ve read Michael Houstoun's story. There are several other success stories too including that of guitarist David Leisner and pianist Hung-Kuan Chen. Other string musicians have learned to swap hands or use just two fingers, which is unsatisfactory.

CIMT is Constraint Induced Movement Therapy
SMR is Sensory Motor Retuning


SMR is a specific type of CIMT. Your dystonia affects one muscle or muscle group. However, the body attempts to compensate for the original unwanted movement by other, equally unwanted movements. This usually results in squirming, extension, twisting etc in an unconscious attempt to correct things. However, instead of correcting movement it impairs it even more. Sensory feedback then reinforces an everlasting flexion/extension cycle that finally results in cramping.

Taking digital film from various angles and scrutinising the results frame-by-frame will reveal exactly what is happening when you play. An adjacent digit is almost always included as a compensatory factor. Only film frames will show this as you will not necessarily be aware of compensation yourself.

SMR immobilises the compensatory digit(s) using a splint. You then undertake therapy where the dystonic digit is worked against one or more digits not involved in compensation. There must be no assistance from other fingers, the wrist, arm, torso or any other part of the body. The affected digit is therefore forced to work unaided. Over time dystonic and compensatory movement is separated. Also, you are re-establishing digital representation between those fingers involved in the therapy by exclusion of ALL other movement. Other means of sensory discrimination include subjecting digits to extremes in temperature (one finger hot and one cold) or other types of sensation.

Playing fast, forceful and difficult works (or exercises) over time can smear distinct movement. That some people are affected and others are not may due to genetics rather than bad practise, but it's significant to note that Braille readers who use two fingers eventually loose discrimination - the brain finally registers two fingers as just one finger. SMR reverses this process. It is a very slow process to sequentially and painstakingly restore independent movement and hard-wire it permanently in the brain but it can be done.

If you wish for more information on SMR I?m perfectly happy to provide detailed information and/or clinics where therapy is taught. You won't get far with the NHS!

Combining SMR with studied movement re-training will effect real lasting change, and I speak from personal experience. I now use intrinsic muscles as far as possible: little to no arm weight: a multi-leverage system using MCP and PIP in tandem by straightening the finger into the key from a slightly arched hand position. no wrist twisting (the thumb is kept straight in all scale-like passages as in a chromatic scale: with arpeggio-like figures the hand opens and closes like a fan instead of holding the chord shape: the index finger is almost always level with the key. The tone is necessarily lighter than before, but at least I can play again cleanly (Thank heavens).
Hammerklavier
Thanks for all your information Philip.

I began specialist physio last week by someone who focuses on FD. I have begun by taping certain fingers with self-adhesive tape.

I was amazed when I did this for the first time that I could play near perfectly. The whole hand felt different and almost exactly as my left hand does.

In fact, it had never felt so good. I was instructed to practise every day but to learn new and simpler pieces. I have now learnt a Bach two Part Invention and a suite by Telemann. I had absolute control of the pieces and finally enjoyed playing which I haven't done for a very long time.

Althought I shouldn't have done this, I wanted to see how my scales would be with the tape. After building up with the metronome, I played several scales effortlessly at 120 without any slips and also with both hands playing exactly together.

I have been told by the physio that undoubtedly, my former career as a French Polisher is what has brought this all on. I used to use a spray gun to apply lacquer and the grip and hand position I had to use was not at all natural. It separated my fingers into three groups........thumb, 2nd and 3rd and 4th and 5th. My hand is out of shape when I play although subtly so and anyone seeing me play wouldn't think so, but my hand became very uncomfortable. I also suffered a severe right shoulder dislocation back in 2002 and that was before I returned to the piano seriously having been away from it for many years.

The pysio thinks with help in that area too, it should assist. I am hoping that just maybe, FD is not the whole problem for me and that by also working on the physical problems I have which should be easier to deal with, I might make progress that way.

I have to play with the tape and also a latex glove with some of the fingers missing for now and end my pracitice with 30 minutes at a tempo where the dystonia does not affect me at all. Interestingly, I am able to play both the Baroque pieces I mentioned earlier at the assigned tempo which is around 92.

I was very surprised at the massive trnasformation that takes place when I wear the tape.

I also have to to other sensory exercises away from the piano similar to the braille that you mentioned. Feeling dominos with eyes closed/open is a good one too.

Will keep you posted. Thanks to everyone for their contributions.

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PhilipS
[quote name='Hammerklavier' date='Jan 18 2011, 08:29 AM' post='1023091']
Thanks for all your information Philip.

You?re more than welcome.

Glad to hear that you have been able to make an ergonomic change to enable some playing once again. (Did the neurologist tell you which muscle or group was affected? The interossei effect finger crossing)

Playing Two-Part Inventions is excellent material for re-learning touch and control. While I was convalescing after many months SMR (I work chiefly as a professional accompanist) I played through most of the sonatas by Soler and Scarlatti - few octaves or large chords, a limited range and clarity of texture.

Keep us informed of progress in the future.

Best wishes
Bobilleg74
I've only just come across this thread and, having read through it, it alarms me how this condition is so poorly understood.

The greatest authority in the world on Focal Dystonia is Prof Joaquin Fabra who lives in Madrid. A Euphonium player, he suffered the symptoms himself many years ago and eventually rehabilitated himself completely. Since then, he has spent the subsequent 20 odd years successfully rehabilitating many many musicians of all disciplines, who are diagnosed with FD, without any use of physiotherapy and certainly not Botox which is simply a wild and dangerous stab in the dark by the medical world, with no proof of any lasting benefits.

I urge you to look at Prof Fabra's site:

http://musiciandystonia.com/

On his YouTube channel, you will find video clips of numerous musicians he has helped:

http://www.youtube.com/user/jfabrava

If you have FD, forget the scare stories and forget the notion that it is incurable (put out by the medical world simply because they have never cured anyone).

Follow this link to find a indepth interview with Prof Fabra.

http://www.youtube.com/user/davescragg
Hammerklavier
QUOTE(Bobilleg74 @ Feb 2 2011, 10:17 PM) *

I've only just come across this thread and, having read through it, it alarms me how this condition is so poorly understood.

The greatest authority in the world on Focal Dystonia is Prof Joaquin Fabra who lives in Madrid. A Euphonium player, he suffered the symptoms himself many years ago and eventually rehabilitated himself completely. Since then, he has spent the subsequent 20 odd years successfully rehabilitating many many musicians of all disciplines, who are diagnosed with FD, without any use of physiotherapy and certainly not Botox which is simply a wild and dangerous stab in the dark by the medical world, with no proof of any lasting benefits.

I urge you to look at Prof Fabra's site:

http://musiciandystonia.com/

On his YouTube channel, you will find video clips of numerous musicians he has helped:

http://www.youtube.com/user/jfabrava

Thanks for this. I already discovered Prof Fabra and am looking into the possibility of going to Madrid.

I have to say though, whatever anybody says, FD is very difficult to treat not least because everybody is different. I am finding that I have a number of problems that unfortuantely have conspired against me as far as the nature of the Dystonia is concerned. One has to be very patient and understand that it is likely to take quite a considerable time to manage.

smile.gif
If you have FD, forget the scare stories and forget the notion that it is incurable (put out by the medical world simply because they have never cured anyone).

Follow this link to find a indepth interview with Prof Fabra.

http://www.youtube.com/user/davescragg

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