Db Eb F Ab C

Does anyone know what this chord is? I was thinking F minor 7 sus 6. But I don't really know what i'm talking about. I'll leave to all you clever people
Cheers,
Tom

Looks like a Db Major 7th chord (Db F Ab C) with a suspended 2nd (Eb).

A straight Db major 7 with maj 9th

hiya

i agree with rhapsodin, but i always get confused....... doesnt a Db 9 substitute the 7th?? what i mean is, cant you just call it a Db 9 as opposed to Db 7 +9 ??

i'm not saying your wrong, its just that ive always been taught that ??? just a little confuddled??


jaime

QUOTE (jaime @ Jan 18 2005, 09:42 PM)

hiya i agree with rhapsodin, but i always get confused....... doesnt a Db 9 substitute the 7th?? what i mean is, cant you just call it a Db 9 as opposed to Db 7 +9 ?? i'm not saying your wrong, its just that ive always been taught that ??? just a little confuddled?? jaime

Thanks an yep, that's fine, but if you definitely want to indicate that the 7th is also in the chord it's worth noting it. There aren't any specitic rules, just what best describes what you want to do.

R

Personally I would go with the suspended 2nd theory as there is no interval of a 9th within this chord in this root position.
If the chord was Db F Ab C and then Eb at the top, ( I read from the base upwards) then I would called it a Major 9th as now it contains the 9th interval.
Thats just my personal choice though!!

Gae

QUOTE (Gae @ Jan 18 2005, 10:52 PM)

Personally I would go with the suspended 2nd theory as there is no interval of a 9th within this chord in this root position. If the chord was Db F Ab C and then Eb at the top, ( I read from the base upwards) then I would called it a Major 9th as now it contains the 9th interval. Thats just me though!! Gae

Whether it's suspended or not depends on what leads into it and what follows, no?
Unless I'm wrong about suspensions. But on the info given it could be several things. An added second (different because the "first" (root) is present so there's nothing for it to resolve onto).

We really need to know its context.

Point is, either answer would do on the basis of what's given. And there're a few more too, like a "suspended" 4th in Ab (added 6th).
1......2.....................3
C--->Eb-------------->Db
Ab->stays same---->Ab
F--->Gb-------------->F
Eb->(stays same)-->F or Db
Db->C---------------->Bb
.. .. .. . . . . . . . . . . . . or something, maybe ending on Db maj or interrupted on a chromatic chord.

horrid but you bet someone's done it!
Enough, he crid!*
R

Ps there's a 9th if you want one. Secondary 7ths and 9ths is part of the syllabub, no?
* deliberate late night typo, sounds more pulp paperback!

Ooo, I like these academic debates of no use in practical music.

It's a V 13 f in Db !


Veronique

Hey, that sounds like street talk....

Vee 13 F (is) in Dee flat (a rented one!).......



Gae

Well I think it's a B55D with extended suspended capabilities.

No I have no idea but I am in a silly mood...

*hides*

1st Hippie....."I C A flat tyre in Deeee flat"

2nd Hippie....."What the F..............in DEeeeee flat?"

Not as silly a mood as me Sarah...

*Leaves the country to go into Exile*

QUOTE (Gae @ Jan 19 2005, 03:37 PM)

Hey, that sounds like street talk.... Vee 13 F (is) in Dee flat (a rented one!).......   Gae

???

If Dee is 13F
What I's like to know is what's Dee's flat mate like?
Bit young to be in a flat, a 13F. Lets pretend she's a 19/F bubbly auburn. Is she GSOH WLTM older M hippy 20/30 possibly guru of the Path Of the Lost Cords

(uh, where d'you leave your cords, man).
(dunno, its a major problem bein I'm a modal)
(well, you got the legs for it)
(thanx. They ache a bit, too much in the first inversion.)
(ah, that's overdoin the wacky pentatonic)
(far out...what's for breakfast?)
(shrugs... mushrooms on toast?)
(bichen, man!)





what's the bet this topic gets closed this morning...?

Db major chord,

with major 7th (as it's a semitone below the Db) - called maj7 or M7 (but maj7 is the clearer option I think),

if the Eb doesn't have the Db a tone below it or above it (just in the bass somewhere) then it's sus2,

but if the Eb DOES have the Db a tone below it or above it, then it's (add2).

It's all to do with whether it's suspended-sounding with room to fall onto the Db, or just a warm crushed sound of the 2 added in.

I don't use the 9th terminology in the styles I write in, I use the 2nd terminology - which is often clearer. Someone else would need to answer in that version.

SO

it's Dbmaj7sus2 OR Dbmaj7(add2)
depending on the above!

Happy chording!

P.S. Db2 would (to be exact) be Db+Eb+Ab (quite a sparse power-chord type of sound), but guitarists often use Db2 to cover describing any of the three 2nd chords.

I'm outta here man....I'm as confused as A flat 13F in Dee flat, Dee House and Dee Garage........It's a Madhouse...a Madhouse!! (he screams in a Charlton Heston-anti simian-grimacing-esque kinda way!)

Gae

Stop it now, all of you! One mad thread on this board is quite enough (if you don't believe me, look at Holly Williams. You'll laugh. You'll cry. You'll splutter chocolate woohoo into your computer).

Don't even think about it! . . I don't want to spill choc woohoo on my frilly pink garibaldis...

It is definitely a chromatic chord in Emaj...

It's a Db major 7th plus Eb.

If you're going to call a chord a 9th, it's got to include the (flattened) 7th. If there's no flattened 7th (in this case the 7th is sharpened), you have to call the Eb "plus Eb". It's not a suspended because it's not necessarily going anywhere!

Violinia

PS It's a nice chord, actually.