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ansatz496
On the first page of this prelude (p. 16 here), the LH triplets often cross the melody, which in the part is attributed to the RH. I was wondering whether it might be helpful to switch hands (so play accompaniment notes with the RH and melody with the left) in various places where this happens, or whether it would be ridiculous. An example of the type of redistributing I mean happens in a few measures of Sonetto 104 by Liszt, in the ossia on p. 9 here, which I used when I played the piece. I would ask my teacher, but I won't see her for at least a few weeks and I would like to have the notes learned by then. Any thoughts appreciated!
fsharpminor
QUOTE(ansatz496 @ Feb 9 2012, 03:49 PM) *

On the first page of this prelude (p. 16 here), the LH triplets often cross the melody, which in the part is attributed to the RH. I was wondering whether it might be helpful to switch hands (so play accompaniment notes with the RH and melody with the left) in various places where this happens, or whether it would be ridiculous. An example of the type of redistributing I mean happens in a few measures of Sonetto 104 by Liszt, in the ossia on p. 9 here, which I used when I played the piece. I would ask my teacher, but I won't see her for at least a few weeks and I would like to have the notes learned by then. Any thoughts appreciated!



I think I would judt play cross hands weher required. You might lose some legato/continuity traying to switch , and I think you would also find it harder to do than you think
Yet another muso
One of my favourite pieces! I will outline the solution that works for me in case you'd like to try it out. Basically I take the entire melody in the right hand, but find that life is made much easier and indeed the musical effect is more fluid if certain notes from the triplets in the lower stave also go in the right hand.

So for the first two bars of the piece, you might be surprised that I only play the first note of the bar and then the 7th and 8th notes of the bar in the left hand, but play the other notes in the right. There is no rule that says left hand must play the notes in the lower stave, and it aids in giving a much simpler more even opening. Then in the third bar (where the melody starts), I take the second note of the triplets (the A top line of bass clef) with the right hand thumb. The right hand thumb naturally sits there anyway, and it gives so much more time to enable the left hand to cross over to play the rest of the bar, therefore aiding ease and fluency. This trick works for the second note of the lower stave in almost every bar of this passage. Sometimes it is best for both the second and third notes of the lower stave in the bar (bars 9, 11, 12 and 15). The spread in bar 6 is also easiest taken in the right hand.

Give it a try, I hope it helps.
ansatz496
QUOTE(Yet another muso @ Feb 9 2012, 12:27 PM) *

One of my favourite pieces! I will outline the solution that works for me in case you'd like to try it out. Basically I take the entire melody in the right hand, but find that life is made much easier and indeed the musical effect is more fluid if certain notes from the triplets in the lower stave also go in the right hand.

So for the first two bars of the piece, you might be surprised that I only play the first note of the bar and then the 7th and 8th notes of the bar in the left hand, but play the other notes in the right. There is no rule that says left hand must play the notes in the lower stave, and it aids in giving a much simpler more even opening. Then in the third bar (where the melody starts), I take the second note of the triplets (the A top line of bass clef) with the right hand thumb. The right hand thumb naturally sits there anyway, and it gives so much more time to enable the left hand to cross over to play the rest of the bar, therefore aiding ease and fluency. This trick works for the second note of the lower stave in almost every bar of this passage. Sometimes it is best for both the second and third notes of the lower stave in the bar (bars 9, 11, 12 and 15). The spread in bar 6 is also easiest taken in the right hand.

Give it a try, I hope it helps.


Thank you, that was indeed helpful smile.gif I experimented with various fingerings last night and I decided, like you, to keep all the melody notes in the RH but allow the RH to take on much of the accompaniment, except I found it effective to allocate even more notes to the RH, so that the LH only needs to cross the RH melody in the last beats of measures 5, 9, 11, and 13. I think my teacher will approve because she usually encourages lots of note redistribution, but I might still ask her to listen without looking at my fingers the first time ph34r.gif
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