I passed the DipABRSM and am working on various LRSM and FRSM pieces.
Here's the question: Two thirds of the LRSM program must come from pieces on the syllabus. If I play an FRSM syllabus piece for my LRSM recital does it count as "coming from the syllabus"?
Thanks!
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No: 2/3 of your LRSM programme must be from set LRSM list, anything else comes off your free choice allowance.
According to the letter of the rules, FRSM pieces wouldn't count as coming from the syllabus. However, I do know someone who played Chopin's 4th ballade (an LRSM piece, 12 minutes long) for DipABRSM and passed, even though the piece wasn't from the DipABRSM syllabus and was over the own-choice time limit, so it could be that the examiners don't really care. I wouldn't risk it without permission from the board though.
Also worth being aware that if you use an FRSM piece in your LRSM, you can't then use that same piece again in your FRSM
I wish AB would do the same as Trinity - the programme must be approved in advance. You then have five years to take the diploma with that programme. At least you know they can't quibble about the programme - unless you are inaccurate over the timimgs.
QUOTE(AnnC @ Mar 12 2012, 08:22 AM) 
I wish AB would do the same as Trinity - the programme must be approved in advance. You then have five years to take the diploma with that programme. At least you know they can't quibble about the programme - unless you are inaccurate over the timimgs.
Trinity ATCL/LTCL programmes don't have to be approved in advance if you're playing 100% on-the-syllabus stuff. Haven't read enough into FTCL to know if the same applies to that diploma, too, but I suspect it does
Thanks everyone, yes I have confirmed that playing an FRSM piece for LRSM is off syllabus.
Losing the piece for FRSM wouldn't have been a problem...I have more FRSM rep right now than LRSM (prepped for competitions) - at least not counting the LRSM rep I'm tired of playing.
As you know, in order to hit the timing correctly you end up with "holes" and I had 13 minute hole I thought about filling with an FRSM piece that I performed a lot 20 years ago but had re-prepped successfully last year and recorded for an NPR radio show here in the U.S. However, it will take me over the 1/3 limit for off-syllabus so I'll do something else.
Thanks again!
Losing the piece for FRSM wouldn't have been a problem...I have more FRSM rep right now than LRSM (prepped for competitions) - at least not counting the LRSM rep I'm tired of playing.
As you know, in order to hit the timing correctly you end up with "holes" and I had 13 minute hole I thought about filling with an FRSM piece that I performed a lot 20 years ago but had re-prepped successfully last year and recorded for an NPR radio show here in the U.S. However, it will take me over the 1/3 limit for off-syllabus so I'll do something else.
Thanks again!
QUOTE(barry-clari @ Mar 12 2012, 02:26 PM)
QUOTE(AnnC @ Mar 12 2012, 08:22 AM)
I wish AB would do the same as Trinity - the programme must be approved in advance. You then have five years to take the diploma with that programme. At least you know they can't quibble about the programme - unless you are inaccurate over the timimgs.
Trinity ATCL/LTCL programmes don't have to be approved in advance if you're playing 100% on-the-syllabus stuff. Haven't read enough into FTCL to know if the same applies to that diploma, too, but I suspect it does
When I did FTCL there was only one piece on syllabus - the rest of the recital had to be own choice and built around it.
QUOTE(AnnC @ Mar 12 2012, 06:14 PM)
QUOTE(barry-clari @ Mar 12 2012, 02:26 PM)
QUOTE(AnnC @ Mar 12 2012, 08:22 AM)
I wish AB would do the same as Trinity - the programme must be approved in advance. You then have five years to take the diploma with that programme. At least you know they can't quibble about the programme - unless you are inaccurate over the timimgs.
Trinity ATCL/LTCL programmes don't have to be approved in advance if you're playing 100% on-the-syllabus stuff. Haven't read enough into FTCL to know if the same applies to that diploma, too, but I suspect it does
When I did FTCL there was only one piece on syllabus - the rest of the recital had to be own choice and built around it.
There are more pieces than that on the syllabus now, but for singers they're not of a nature to make a balanced programme, so you still have to get approval........
To which they may or may not eventually respond......
QUOTE(scriabinpiano @ Mar 12 2012, 10:54 AM)
As you know, in order to hit the timing correctly you end up with "holes" and I had 13 minute hole I thought about filling with an FRSM piece that I performed a lot 20 years ago but had re-prepped successfully last year and recorded for an NPR radio show here in the U.S. However, it will take me over the 1/3 limit for off-syllabus so I'll do something else.
Thanks again!
13 minutes is less than 1/3 of an LRSM programme, no?
QUOTE(ansatz496 @ Mar 12 2012, 08:34 PM)
QUOTE(scriabinpiano @ Mar 12 2012, 10:54 AM)
As you know, in order to hit the timing correctly you end up with "holes" and I had 13 minute hole I thought about filling with an FRSM piece that I performed a lot 20 years ago but had re-prepped successfully last year and recorded for an NPR radio show here in the U.S. However, it will take me over the 1/3 limit for off-syllabus so I'll do something else.
Thanks again!
13 minutes is less than 1/3 of an LRSM programme, no?
True, but I'm planning to open the program w/one of my favorite Scarlatti sonatas, none of which are on the syllabus. I don't like opening and warming up w/ a long heavy piece (personal thing).
It'll be fine - I'll either pick up something similar length like Chopin op. 49 (which I read frequently but have not finished or performed) or break down and do something I've done before that I might be a little tired of playing but is on the syllabus.
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