QUOTE(saxophile @ Aug 3 2012, 12:45 PM)
QUOTE(Swell Box @ Aug 1 2012, 10:26 AM)
Mind you; much the same could be said for modern hymn books, which are full of inane, politically correct drivel, set to banal melodies.
Give me the NEH or AMNS any day.
but I had to comment. My copy of "A Survivor's Guide to the Church" contains the following definitions:
"CHORUS - Song with good tune but no theology (cf HYMN)"
"HYMN - Song with good theology but no tune (cf CHORUS)"
There's something in that.... though in my view, a lot of the stuff in most hymnbooks is pretty dire both as to lyrics and melody, and regardless of vintage. I have a particular distaste for the AM tune for "Thy Kingdom Come" (St Cecilia - never was a tune more misnamed!!), for instance. Really good church songs - like really good pop songs - are few and far between.
with much of what you say.
Picking up on VH2's comment, "A lot of trash was indeed written in the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries", but most of it had been filtered out by the time the New English Hymnal and Hymns Ancient and Modern (New Standard) were printed.
Then Graeme Kendrick and Mission Praise came along, followed by Songs of Fellowship, Sing Glory and other
There are undoubtedly some
good 'songs' in these books, (Shine Jesus Shine being perhaps the best known example), but there are many more that I
doubt will make it into the next editions.
Most regular congregations enjoy singing traditional hymns, (preferably accompanied by a pipe organ), but they are increasingly being denied that pleasure in favour of badly written 'songs' set to weak melodies written for guitar, banjo, ukulele and goodness knows what else.
Observing proceedings from the safety of the quire I have seen and heard first hand which is preferred by the congregation. Unfortunately, there is a small resident music group which persists in imposing its highly amplified and badly played music on an unwilling congregation. This has resulted in several longstanding members (ourselves included) voting with their feet in favour of places where music is done properly, and where the 'atmosphere' is more to their liking.
The Music Group's answer to this is 'more of the same'.
PS: I have just looked up St Cecilia in the hymnbook, and it is a nice tune with a good harmony (in our book anyway). I don't know what you don't like about it?