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coggy
Hi

I am stuck on a question and wondered if anyone could shed some light on it, it is a note or notes with a strike through it

If someone could explain it I would be very grateful

Thanks
Sarah wink.gif
Gemini
Hi Sarah
You have my sympathy; I too am doing Grade 5 theory and having terrible trouble with composing melodies without using the piano. I just can't get the hang of it unsure.gif
Anyway, I think what you are looking for is dealt with on page 40 of the Grade 4 theory book item 4 - the acciaccatura or grace note - a VERY short note.
When are you taking the exam?
Gemini - the granny of the forum
sbhoa
Hi Gemini..
I call it 'composing by numbers'.

First work out the rhythm.
You want to finish on the dominant note (or a note from the dominant chord) at the half way point.
Make the last 2 notes fit with a perfect cadence (leading note to tonic is a strong ending).

Having worked those parts out then just make the rest fill the gaps neatly.

Don't know if this will work for you.. but a similar approach was good for me right up to grade 8.
Jen W
Coggy - bowed tremolo marks!!! (See my reply on Adult Learners forum!)
Jen W
QUOTE (Gemini @ Feb 16 2005, 11:30 AM)
I too am doing Grade 5 theory and having terrible trouble with composing melodies without using the piano. I just can't get the hang of it

Gemini - I'm also doing G5 theory (but not until the summer session). This section took me ages to wade through! It's not that I couldn't think of suitable melodies, it's just that when I tapped them into the computer (Notepad freeware) they didn't sound anything like I'd imagined blink.gif !

Since I've been practising my aural for G4 piano, though, things have improved, because I'm finding it easier to 'hear' the melody in my head. I'm going to keep it as simple as possible, aim for the dominant at the half way mark and finish on the tonic, then add a few performance directions!

Jen
coggy
Hi all

Thanks for the replys

I am taking my grade 5 in march( 2nd time round as just missed out on it last time by 2points bummer, at least I will know it betterthis time

You said you think it is a acciacatura, but it isnt

It is a note, notes or groups of notes that have a strong strike through them and in my theory is fun book it has a crotchet with a strong strike through and then an arrow to 2 joined quavers and this changes for different notes etc ie: a dotted crotchet with a strike through then has an arrow pointing to 3 quavers
Its as though its saying this is the value of it

If someone finds what it properly means I would be very grateful

Thanks for your replys
Sarah
saxlover
is it a reiterated note?

look at pages 99-100 for the pink ab guide to music theory
coggy
Hi

Sorry I dont have that book sad.gif
saxlover
what books do you have?
coggy
I have abrsm grade 5 Eric Taylor music theory in practice

and Theory is fun(ha ha) grade 5 Maureen cox

If you have the first one you can see what I am on about on the last page(56) and the question d

Also if you have the theory is fun book it mentions it on page 76

Thanks Sarah
saxlover
yes i think im right

now how do i explain............. right for example (sorry if this makes no sense)

if a crotchet had that line going through it, you would play the note twice- like 2 quavers

so in that example instead of 5 quavers as in your question thre would be 10.

i hope this makes some sort of sense?!
coggy
Hi Thanks

Thats what I thought it meant,

One of the suggestins in the theory if un book says 2 minims joined and then arrow 4 quavers joined??

Does this actually mean 4 crotchets and not quavers??

Hope you get what I mean

So how would you answer the question of what does this notation mean id asked in a exam ( no preasure biggrin.gif )

Thanks sarah
saxlover
sorry i dont get it lol!!

erm..i dunno

ive just read JenW's replies and as it is written for strings you could put tremolo markings, or just put reiterated notes. theyll understand u hopefully!
Jen W
Nat - I've just read Kenm's v good reply in Adult Learners! He's right too when he says they're repetition marks - for tremolo there would be 3 strokes through quavers, 2 through semi quavers, 1 through demisemiquavers etc - I got carried away when I saw it was a string quartet!! Sorry sad.gif
saxlover
oh i was right then! yay!

coggy
QUOTE (kenm @ Feb 17 2005, 12:00 AM)
A slash through a stem indicates repetition, and for crotchets or smaller notes each slash halves the length: e.g. a crotchet with one slash turns into two quavers, a quaver with one slash turns into two semiquavers. For minims and longer, one slash turns it into quavers, two slashes into semiquavers, etc. In my (bass playing) experience, string tremolo cannot be assumed at any particular number of slashes. Usually three slashes means tremolo, but in a slow tempo you could play measured notes, so in an orchestra you do what your section principal decides, and s/he asks the conductor in difficult cases. In wind parts, three slashes usually means flutter tonguing.

Hi all

Thanks for all your help

As you can see above Kenm got it in the end

Great stuff biggrin.gif
God Bless
Sarah
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