musicbox
Feb 20 2005, 06:34 PM
Recently my teacher told me that after my exam that I am doing on 19th March I wont start work for my next exam until September because if I am just doing exams all the time I wont be learning as much. Do you think this is a good idea?

oops I have made a mistake. My teacher said after my grade 4 exam then were not starting again till Oct. Soz
saxlover
Feb 20 2005, 06:59 PM
if you are in no rush to do exams, then waiting is probably a good idea. if you have to do them and are barking mad(like me!) then dont wait lol
musicbox
Feb 20 2005, 07:05 PM
by the way what is einaudi?
Saxophonist
Feb 20 2005, 07:16 PM
Hes a pianist and dont let clarinetlover hear you say that
sarah-flute
Feb 20 2005, 08:30 PM
sounds like your teacher has a sensible approach to exams.
nat, why are you doing them all so fast? keep meaning to ask...
Saxophonist
Feb 20 2005, 09:09 PM
as soon as ive finised 1 exam i move on to the next because I want to try to reach g8 by the time Ive left school. but maybe I should slow down...
'*~ iluvpiano ~*'
Feb 20 2005, 09:21 PM
| QUOTE (sarah-flute @ Feb 20 2005, 08:30 PM) |
sounds like your teacher has a sensible approach to exams.
nat, why are you doing them all so fast? keep meaning to ask... |
nats doin them so fast because she needs at least grade 7 or 8 in at least two instruments to get into university to become a music teacher
Catrin
Feb 20 2005, 10:21 PM
| QUOTE (musicbox @ Feb 20 2005, 06:34 PM) |
Recently my teacher told me that after my exam that I am doing on 19th March I wont start work for my next exam until September because if I am just doing exams all the time I wont be learning as much. Do you think this is a good idea? |
I did my last exam in December and I'm not doing another (which will be grade 7) till at least January 2006. If you've got a wider repetoire then you will be a better pianist in the long run, and your sightreading will improve if you play more pieces in different styles.
uberzoldat
Feb 20 2005, 10:31 PM
I totally agree. My brother always played other music inbetween exams, and his sightreading is excellent. However, I never did and mine is poor. I would definitely recommend playing lots of other music inbetween exams.
musicbox
Feb 21 2005, 11:57 AM
| QUOTE (Saxophonist @ Feb 20 2005, 09:09 PM) |
| as soon as ive finised 1 exam i move on to the next because I want to try to reach g8 by the time Ive left school. but maybe I should slow down... |
Thats what i want to do but My teacher reckons I can still do it even if i am going slower than most people
trio
Feb 21 2005, 02:15 PM
Very sensible view from your teacher. To learn an instrument by leaping from one exam to the next does not normally make a good musician. If you have no choice then you should try to play as much other stuff as possible alongside your exam pieces, but you will be a much broader and stronger musician having a wide repertoire under your belt. I know to my cost, as this is how I was taught, and now as a teacher I can see how very flawed that approach is.
Saxophonist
Feb 21 2005, 02:17 PM
| QUOTE (musicbox @ Feb 21 2005, 11:57 AM) |
| QUOTE (Saxophonist @ Feb 20 2005, 09:09 PM) | | as soon as ive finised 1 exam i move on to the next because I want to try to reach g8 by the time Ive left school. but maybe I should slow down... |
Thats what i want to do but My teacher reckons I can still do it even if i am going slower than most people |
Ive only got just over a year left at school!
might slow down after g6 though
saxlover
Feb 21 2005, 04:07 PM
| QUOTE ('*~ iluvpiano ~*' @ Feb 20 2005, 09:21 PM) |
| QUOTE (sarah-flute @ Feb 20 2005, 08:30 PM) | sounds like your teacher has a sensible approach to exams.
nat, why are you doing them all so fast? keep meaning to ask... |
nats doin them so fast because she needs at least grade 7 or 8 in at least two instruments to get into university to become a music teacher |
would you please stop saying stuff about me that is incorrect. i can answer myself.
i need a grade 8 for uni so im going to try to do sax. but i want to teach so getting a good piano grade would be good- plus extra ucas points!
Helen
Feb 21 2005, 04:09 PM
| QUOTE (clarinetlover @ Feb 21 2005, 04:07 PM) |
plus extra ucas points! |
Always a good thing... Shame I will never be able to take grade 6 piano before uni! *but grade 6 flute and theory are still decent ucas points...*
saxlover
Feb 21 2005, 04:42 PM
its still some points Helen!!
and anyway- ok im rushing through the exams but i do not just play exam pieces, i play lots of other stuff to
Saxophonist
Feb 21 2005, 06:03 PM
| QUOTE (clarinetlover @ Feb 21 2005, 04:07 PM) |
plus extra ucas points! |
what are ucas points?
PlinkPlonkMan
Feb 21 2005, 06:30 PM
Hi Musicbox
Iv'e got my exam on the 19th as well (grade 2)...What grade are you taking....My exam is in Gosport , Hants....where's yours.
BFN Mike
musicbox
Feb 21 2005, 09:30 PM
Hi plink plonk man. Im doing grade 3. I was supposed to do it last year but I was on holiday at the time. I've realised I put that I had done grade 3. I've got my grade 4 exam though in June. My exam is in Bromsgrove
'*~ iluvpiano ~*'
Feb 21 2005, 10:14 PM
| QUOTE (clarinetlover @ Feb 21 2005, 04:07 PM) |
| QUOTE ('*~ iluvpiano ~*' @ Feb 20 2005, 09:21 PM) | | QUOTE (sarah-flute @ Feb 20 2005, 08:30 PM) | sounds like your teacher has a sensible approach to exams.
nat, why are you doing them all so fast? keep meaning to ask... |
nats doin them so fast because she needs at least grade 7 or 8 in at least two instruments to get into university to become a music teacher |
would you please stop saying stuff about me that is incorrect. i can answer myself.
|
That is correct!!!!!!!! at least that is what you told me!! Anyway stop havin a go at me for gods sake i was only helpin, you wernt online!
sarah-flute
Feb 21 2005, 10:18 PM
| QUOTE (clarinetlover @ Feb 21 2005, 04:07 PM) |
i need a grade 8 for uni so im going to try to do sax. but i want to teach so getting a good piano grade would be good- plus extra ucas points! |
you need grade 8 exam or grade 8 standard?
is your offer to Bangor conditional on getting to grade 8?
if all else fails (though no reason why it should) you could always defer and take a year to get the grades you need. you seem to be ploughing through them well though!
'*~ iluvpiano ~*'
Feb 21 2005, 11:54 PM
| QUOTE (Saxophonist @ Feb 21 2005, 06:03 PM) |
| QUOTE (clarinetlover @ Feb 21 2005, 04:07 PM) | plus extra ucas points! |
what are ucas points? |
yeh what the h.e.l.l are ucas points?!?!?!
sbhoa
Feb 22 2005, 02:21 PM
| QUOTE |
| what are ucas points? |
For university entry people are often asked (apart forom having particular A level grades) for a certain number of points.
Each grade at A level carries a different number of points (A having the most of course).
Universities now (mostly) allow points for success in AB (and some other boards) music exams at grades 6 - 8.
UCAS is the UK university clearing system.
sarah-flute
Feb 22 2005, 03:00 PM
I'm curious, and wonder if anyone knows... are the points cumulative for each instrument, or does a higher grade supercede a lower one? ie, if you got a pass in grades 6, 7 and 8 on and instrument, would only the UCAS points from the grade 8 count, or all three of them? just curious...
AnotherPianist
Feb 22 2005, 03:13 PM
| QUOTE (sbhoa @ Feb 22 2005, 02:21 PM) |
| UCAS is the UK university clearing system. |
UCAS is the Universities and Colleges Admissions Service and deals with all University applications in the UK. They do oversee the clearing system but they do all admissions as well.
I really do think that UCAS points are a system where it depends how desperate the university is to get bums on seats in what they are willing to count. For example, apply to Cambridge, Oxford, Durham etc. and you will get no mention of UCAS points just an offer involving A in this B in that or that. Their offers are very specific because they can afford to be picky: they'll never accept general studies as and A-level and will only accept you with a minimum standard in the subject you've picked: an A in Maths to study maths or whatever. Some universities will accept anything that QCA will give points for, whilst they may want a basic competence to be demonstrated in the subject of choice through an A-level in a specific subject they will sometimes just say X points including A-level maths or whatever. If they can't afford to be picky they'll take points from music exams (for non-musical subjects) so that they can say people meet the criteria. I should think that the logical conclusion is hypothetically to let someone in a university could allow grade 6 and grade 7 to count, but they'd only do that if they were desperate for an excuse to let someone in, and in practice would only accept the highest grade for UCAS points in music related subjects, and not accept them at all if the subject is not related to music.
I've never heard of anybody get an offer based on UCAS points without restriction on which specific qualifications these must come from.
sarah-flute
Feb 22 2005, 03:18 PM
| QUOTE (AnotherPianist @ Feb 22 2005, 03:13 PM) |
| For example, apply to Cambridge, Oxford, Durham etc. and you will get no mention of UCAS points just an offer involving A in this B in that or that. |
*nod* I remember mine was "at least 24 points, at least a B in English and French" - quite specific then!
Though I went to uni before the music exams were accredited.
saxlover
Feb 22 2005, 04:02 PM
| QUOTE ('*~ iluvpiano ~*' @ Feb 21 2005, 10:14 PM) |
| QUOTE (clarinetlover @ Feb 21 2005, 04:07 PM) | | QUOTE ('*~ iluvpiano ~*' @ Feb 20 2005, 09:21 PM) | | QUOTE (sarah-flute @ Feb 20 2005, 08:30 PM) | sounds like your teacher has a sensible approach to exams.
nat, why are you doing them all so fast? keep meaning to ask... |
nats doin them so fast because she needs at least grade 7 or 8 in at least two instruments to get into university to become a music teacher |
would you please stop saying stuff about me that is incorrect. i can answer myself.
|
That is correct!!!!!!!! at least that is what you told me!! Anyway stop havin a go at me for gods sake i was only helpin, you wernt online! |
im not havin a go at you im saying that id prefer to answer posts directed at me myself, i wouldnt mind if what you said was correct but it wasnt. youve obviously completely misunderstood what ive said
sbhoa
Feb 22 2005, 04:11 PM
| QUOTE |
| or does a higher grade supercede a lower one? |
I think that this is the case.
saxlover
Feb 22 2005, 04:12 PM
it does. so if i do grade 6 piano and grade 7 piano i will only get the points for grade 7
sbhoa
Feb 22 2005, 06:35 PM
yes.. at least that is my understanding of it.
nicki_flute
Feb 22 2005, 07:05 PM
Oh. I thought the UCAS points all added up! What happens if you get 2 Grade 8s?
trio
Feb 22 2005, 07:20 PM
And I think there are more points for a distinction in grade 7 than a pass in grade 8.
uberzoldat
Feb 22 2005, 07:52 PM
http://www.abrsm.org/?page=newsArticles/it...tem.html&id=144This explains about points for each type of exam.
Hope this helps
i_love_moi
Feb 23 2005, 01:38 PM
I went straight onto the next grade with my clarinet. However, I need to be grade 7 standard on clarinet for uni (I want to be a music primary school teacher) but, I was told my my AS level music teacher, that if your music teacher writes a note to the uni, saying that you are at grade 7 standard, that still counts! So I'm not in a huge rush to start grade 7 clarinet, although I have been playing grade 6 and 7 pieces.
saxlover
Feb 24 2005, 09:58 PM
Nicki- if you had 2 grade 8's in different instruments then that would be ok!
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