I just posted a similar thread in the Student's forum but since it has to be moderated (thank god that's changing) then I'm posting one here.

I know I'm starting to become a hermit around here but I'm tired of clicking on the Student's forum and seeing it full of piano topics, mostly what are you playing for Grade such and such. The first four topics in the students forum just now are piano related.

That's what the Viva Piano forum is there for! It annoys me so much to see piano topics in the Student's forum, we have a piano forum, could everyone please use it.

This only involves some pianists, the majority use the Piano forum.

Am I alone in this or is there anyone else who agrees with me?

I think that the problem with this is that there is some overlap between what's a piano topic and what's a student topic, especially when a new person is arriving. I personally do post piano related topics in the viva piano forum but some topics that people post are questions from and to students and therefore are also within the description of the students' forum. If one can't talk about one's instrument what can one talk about? Exam marks, again someone could argue that's marks on your instrument and you should put it in that thread. I agree in principle that it's neater if piano related topics are in viva piano, clarinet topics in viva clarinet (or viva woodwind as it shall be) but I think the line between what should be there and what in the students' forum is a little too fine and there's certainly some overlap so you can't really make the distinction too easily.

Also, after reading some of the rather advanced topics in the piano forum, some students might feel intimidated posting their topic about Grade 3 piano pieces in there. Although I would say I'm quite a confident person, I didn't immediately start posting, and when I did, I didn't dare post anything unless I was certain I was right or had reason to!

Just a tiny point, and not meaning to offend, but a few new students who have posted in the piano forum have been immediately shot down for the use of language, and a few have started to post their piano related topics in the students' forum instead, where people aren't so bothered.

I agree, some younger members just prefer posting in the student forum. I mainly posted in the woodwind forums at first, but I was already at such a level that I could talk about more advanced topics.

And by the way Hulk, what is this "Nat plan" in your signature?

I understand where you all are coming from, and I know that when you're knew you are a bit scared to post in forums with more advanced topics, but that's no reason to bog down the student's forum with piano related topics, and I wasn't talking about marks in exams, that's ok, I was talking about, "What Pieces are you playing for Grade 4/5/6 etc. piano", they really annoy me.

The "Nat Plan" is to go from Grade 3 to Grade 6 clarinet in less than a year, and to get grade 5 theory in between, it's called the "Nat Plan" because it seems like something Nat would do!

(Hulk) "but that's no reason to bog down the student's forum with piano related topics, "

One could equally argue against bogging down the piano forums with student related topics. But it's the nature of a site like this that overlaps will happen, especially as it is predominantly peopled by students.

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QUOTE (Hulk @ May 27 2005, 12:00 PM)

but that's no reason to bog down the student's forum with piano related topics

Unfortunately any forum pertaining to all instruments will inevitably contain far more topics about piano than anything else simply because more people play the piano: it's not that the pianists are the worst offenders (although they are often guilty of not mentioning that they're talking about piano and assuming everyone knows!) it's just that there are simply more of them!

QUOTE (Franchonard @ May 27 2005, 01:10 PM)

(Hulk) "but that's no reason to bog down the student's forum with piano related topics, " One could equally argue against bogging down the piano forums with student related topics.  But it's the nature of a site like this that overlaps will happen, especially as it is predominantly peopled by students.   .

But they wouldn't be students related topics, they would be piano related topics, perhaps more student orientated, but still piano related.

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Unfortunately any forum pertaining to all instruments will inevitably contain far more topics about piano than anything else simply because more people play the piano:

But that is why we have a piano forum, for piano related topics, whether it be pieces that have been chosen for exams, what people are currently playing, what piano they have, piano news etc. I wouldn't start talking about what clarinet pieces I'm playing for an exam in the Student's forum, and so why should pianists do it?

The viva piano forum is there to be used by pianists for piano related topics.

If everything is going to be climically separated like that then there will be no need for a general forum....

One point, the general forum is intended for the use of all musicians, techers, students and parents etc, not just for general music. The student's forum should NOT be bogged with piano threads. It is VERY annoying and it actually makes me quite angry when I open up the page and all I can see are piano threads. The students forum can be used to talk about general things such as theory, practical musicianship, scales etc. and NOT for "what is everyone playing for grade 6 pinao?" The student's forum is for students in general, NOT for just piano players. I agree that there are far more piano players than anything else, but clarinettists tend to keep their posts to their forum and so do flute and violin players.

And I do not agree with the intimidation theory. There are plenty of people who post of Viva Clarinet who may not have Grade 8 distinction on 17 instruments.

I do think that posts as specific as "what are you doing for your grade X piano exam", and anything that deals with specific piano tecnique belongs in the piano forum. I've rarely if ever seen specific string or wind posts in here, or brass for that matter, and I also don't agree that the Viva Forums are intimidating... if Viva Piano IS for some reason, when maybe it would be a good idea for one of you braver souls to start posting in there so that others can be sure it's not just grade 8 + people who read in there.

(It happens in the adult learners' forum too that people post assuming that everyone plays piano... which can be annoying (fair enough to have piano related posts in there, the aim of the forum is slightly different, but it's nice if people can specify which instrument they play and not just assume that every adult learner is a pianist... )...)

The wind and brass and string people seem to be able to keep their highly specific posts (ie about tonguing and bowing etc) largely if not entirely in the appropriate forums, I don't think it's too much to ask that the pianists do the same...

It seems to me that the students' forum is for students. Withing reason, they can post what they like.

Perhaps if people at least took the effort to put a descriptive title - eg "what are you doing for grade 6 <insert instrument here>". At least you could ignore the thread.
Hulk, hope that at least taking the time to complain about it's got it off your chest - I'm sure it'll keep happening but maybe now you've vented spleen you can have some more patience

But even if you can ignore it it is still annoying to see it there.

QUOTE (purple dolphin @ May 28 2005, 07:25 PM)

But even if you can ignore it it is still annoying to see it there.

Exactly!

I still don't have any more patience even after complaining about it.

Yes. I suppose I agree with you to a certain extent. But as most students here play the piano its hard to separate the two.

What annoys me even more is seeing the same thread on different forums. There is a thread about Petrof/Yamaha pianos (but thats just one example) appearing on several forums simultaneously. Whats the point of that?

-What annoys me even more is seeing the same thread on different forums. There is a thread about Petrof/Yamaha pianos (but thats just one example) appearing on several forums simultaneously. Whats the point of that? (noodle)

I dare say because the member is new and maybe not clear about the rules. They say spam is posting the same on many boards but that isn't spam really and paulara may have thought spamming was not allowed on several boards.

It'll sort itself out.

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Either that, or some people don't realise that people here read practically all the forums anyway.

QUOTE (uberzoldat @ May 30 2005, 04:46 PM)

Either that, or some people don't realise that people here read practically all the forums anyway.

Umm do I remind you all that 'to err is human, to forgive divine...'
Please give the post-er a break and let's talk about more intelligible matters shall we?

Cheerio mates....

Actually, I was attempting to put forward a possible reason for the poster's posting. I wasn't getting at them.