Full Version: Come In, Sit Down !
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Goodnight Leinad
Night CE! now that everyones off to bed i have no reason not to do all my work 
QUOTE(Chaos_91 @ Jan 22 2006, 10:20 PM) 
Night CE! now that everyones off to bed i have no reason not to do all my work
I'm not gone yet
Night Mattchoo
Think I'm off too now.
Night all!
Night all!
ahh goodgood so i do have an excuse hows it going chris?
night matt
hows it going chris?night matt
Not too bad thanks Nala 
And yourself?
And yourself?
pretty annoyed, my room is too small for practicing cello and i left my stopper for the spike in school and i have no glasses so im really fustrated :(and i have a pile of work to do, so im finding any excuse to relax
QUOTE(Chaos_91 @ Jan 22 2006, 10:29 PM)
pretty annoyed, my room is too small for practicing cello and i left my stopper for the spike in school and i have no glasses so im really fustrated :(and i have a pile of work to do, so im finding any excuse to relax
Yikes!
yeah, good thing i have the forums to keep me sane
QUOTE(Chaos_91 @ Jan 22 2006, 10:31 PM)
yeah, good thing i have the forums to keep me sane
And MSN
yeah am i even on it 
oh im not on i'll go on now
am i even on it oh im not on
i'll go on now
*points* THERE YOU ARE!
was in the kitchen eating
QUOTE(Chaos_91 @ Jan 22 2006, 10:51 PM)
was in the kitchen eating Fun!
im scared now 
Morning all!
Morning katyjay. Do you have heating yet?
Morning ladies... bit of a grey old Monday innit?!
It's Monday. 'Nuff said. Bit grey here too, but it's not raining, and the mornings are getting lighter as well.
I wish my mood was getting lighter... lol
Why, what's up mrb? Tell Uncle Deborah all about it.
QUOTE(Deborah @ Jan 23 2006, 09:04 AM)
Why, what's up mrb? Tell Uncle Deborah all about it.
Uncle?!
Just normally Monday-morning-syndrome-the-same-old-same-old-stuck-in-a-grinding-rut type feeling. I'm sure it will pass once I've had a cup of tea!
And I'm sure I'll be less fed-up when the wretched gas engineer gets here 
<hand mrbouffant a cup of tea>
The "Uncle Deborah" bit goes back to when Nephew was about 2. He was just getting to grips with the names of people he didn't see every day, so when I asked him if he knew what my name was, he looked up at me adoringly and proudly said "Uncle Deborah". OK, one minor error, but I couldn't do much for laughing.
Looks like katyjay needs cheering up too <hands katyjay a large cup of industrial-strength peppermint tea>
The "Uncle Deborah" bit goes back to when Nephew was about 2. He was just getting to grips with the names of people he didn't see every day, so when I asked him if he knew what my name was, he looked up at me adoringly and proudly said "Uncle Deborah". OK, one minor error, but I couldn't do much for laughing.
Looks like katyjay needs cheering up too <hands katyjay a large cup of industrial-strength peppermint tea>
QUOTE(Deborah @ Jan 23 2006, 09:08 AM)
<hand mrbouffant a cup of tea>
The "Uncle Deborah" bit goes back to when Nephew was about 2. He was just getting to grips with the names of people he didn't see every day, so when I asked him if he knew what my name was, he looked up at me adoringly and proudly said "Uncle Deborah". OK, one minor error, but I couldn't do much for laughing.
Looks like katyjay needs cheering up too <hands katyjay a large cup of industrial-strength peppermint tea>
Thanks Deborah - just what I needed.
I too used to be an "Uncle". Unfortunately my niece couldn't be persuaded that female "Uncle"s were actually "Aunty"s. For about eighteen months I was Uncle Katyjay.....
Actually, on reflection, better that way round than my husband becoming Aunty MisterJay
When I got married second time, I "inherited" a whole set of nephews.. a new relationship for me not having had any previously. Bit strange to be addressed as "Uncle bouffy" in thick, whiny scouse accents! lol
I made the mistake of letting some of my colleagues know about this, who decided to call me Uncle Deborah long after Nephew had worked out that I was actually Aunty Deborah. At least Nephew was the only one of the tribe of nephews and nieces to make that mistake, otherwise I'd probably be in therapy by now!
Good Morning to y'all. I'm so stressed out. Any remedy. I have a C3 maths eam of Wednesday morning and I've just realised how much I don't know.
It's so scary. I just don't do resits.
It's so scary. I just don't do resits.
QUOTE(Bb Clarinet @ Jan 23 2006, 09:20 AM)
Good Morning to y'all. I'm so stressed out. Any remedy. I have a C3 maths eam of Wednesday morning and I've just realised how much I don't know.
It's so scary. I just don't do resits.
One thing I kept telling myself before exams was that the exam is designed to show what you do know, not to point out what you don't.
Chances are, you'll know a fair bit of it, so focus on the stuff you can do and forget the stuff you can't.
And make sure you get enough rest.
Cheers
katyjay
Thanks, but I don't feel right in myself if there's the thought that I don't know something. Even just one little thing. I got full marks in my other modules because of this so it pays off! But I'm sooooo tired!
I shall try to remember katyjay's advice for 1st March.
What's happening then, Ms. D?
QUOTE(Deborah @ Jan 23 2006, 09:35 AM)
I shall try to remember katyjay's advice for 1st March.
And remember figured bass and pivot chords for modulation and to take a pencil and eraser with you.....
QUOTE(Bb Clarinet @ Jan 23 2006, 09:35 AM)
What's happening then, Ms. D?
I "accidentally" entered myself to sit Grade 6 theory on 1st March, and in the cold light of day am wondering if I've just chucked £27.50 down the drain.
katyjay, the exam kit will probably include six pencils, three rubbbers, two pencil sharpeners, at least one pivot chord, and possibly a hip flask.
Oh dear, Deborah. I'm sure you'll do just fine. Prepare well and ... tht's all I can think of right now!
You'll be fine Deborah 
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What's a pivot chord? How did I manage A level music, ARCO paperwork and ALCM paperwork, all with Bach harmonisation without knowing this?!
I like to think I'll be fine; after all, I have a GCSE, A level and degree in music, so a little SATB harmonisation shouldn't present me with any difficulty - it certainly didn't on the practice paper I did last week. Not sure I could handle the humiliation of failing though (especially given the aforementioned qualifications!), and I'm extremely out of practice at exams, not having sat any at all since 1994. Most of it should be just revision, dredging up obscure facts about passing second inversion chords from a dusty corner in the back of my memory.
mrbouffant, I'm glad you asked what a pivot chord was. Anyone care to share?
mrbouffant, I'm glad you asked what a pivot chord was. Anyone care to share?
I have absolutely no idea, Mr B. I vaguely recalled the term from the query that was going on the General Music thread.......
Maybe by this summer I'll have a clue.....
Maybe by this summer I'll have a clue.....
Morning all!
(got no idea what a pivot chord is before you ask - I just play the stuff!)
(got no idea what a pivot chord is before you ask - I just play the stuff!)
My approach to harmonisation is instinctive, coupled with a loose knowledge of the basic laws.. I'm no genius, but it's certainly functional. I shall play through all of Bach's chorale harmonisations before the exam just to make sure 
A pivot chord is used when performing a smooth modulation: it's common to the home key and the destination key.
E.g. going from C Major to G Major
vi in C Major / ii in G Major - Pivot Chord
V - G Major
I - Perfect cadence, so G Major tonality established.
The vi/ii chord is the pivot chord in this case, and the perfect cadence establishes the modulation into the new key.
E.g. going from C Major to G Major
vi in C Major / ii in G Major - Pivot Chord
V - G Major
I - Perfect cadence, so G Major tonality established.
The vi/ii chord is the pivot chord in this case, and the perfect cadence establishes the modulation into the new key
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Morning Carol, the kettle's just boiled if you'd like a drink.
mrbouffant, don't play through the Bach chorales! I've sung enough of them to realise that they're all so good because Bach broke the rules instead of sticking rigidly to them. Unless of course you're aiming for musical rather than theorectical perfection.
mrbouffant, don't play through the Bach chorales! I've sung enough of them to realise that they're all so good because Bach broke the rules instead of sticking rigidly to them. Unless of course you're aiming for musical rather than theorectical perfection.
Well done YAP!
<something stirs under a dusty corner in the far recesses of memory>
Thanks YAP. I remember those from a looooooooong time ago.
Thanks YAP. I remember those from a looooooooong time ago.
QUOTE(Deborah @ Jan 23 2006, 10:02 AM)
mrbouffant, don't play through the Bach chorales! I've sung enough of them to realise that they're all so good because Bach broke the rules instead of sticking rigidly to them. Unless of course you're aiming for musical rather than theorectical perfection.
*cough* crossing voices *cough*
*cough* leading note falling at cadences *cough*
*cough* doubling major thirds *cough*
But, of course, he was Bach
. If I did it, in a theory exam, it would no doubt be both penalised and unpleasant to listen to .I learnt how to modulate last week
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at this level, i think all you need to do is
(a) avoid parallel 5ths and 8ths
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don't double the third
© throw in some suspensions
(d) throw in some contrary movement, esp between Sop and Bass
(e) throw in a passing note or two
(f) finish all your cadences iib7 - V - I
(a) avoid parallel 5ths and 8ths
(
don't double the third© throw in some suspensions
(d) throw in some contrary movement, esp between Sop and Bass
(e) throw in a passing note or two
(f) finish all your cadences iib7 - V - I
QUOTE(mrbouffant @ Jan 23 2006, 10:05 AM)
(f) finish all your cadences iib7 - V - I
You don't have to be able to use iib7, just recognise it in questions 4 and 5 if they say 'name this chord'. Incidentally, it may help if they ask what this chord is and what's the key in a given bar - if it's a 7th chord, it can only be V7 or ii7, which narrows it down nicely
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QUOTE(mrbouffant @ Jan 23 2006, 10:05 AM)
at this level, i think all you need to do is
(i) avoid parallel 5ths and 8ths
(ii) don't double the third
(iii)throw in some suspensions
(iv) throw in some contrary movement, esp between Sop and Bass
(v) throw in a passing note or two
(vi) finish all your cadences iib7 - V - I
Go the whole hog: IIb7 - Ic - V7 - I (try it with the end of the National Anthem if you don't believe me).
If much more stirs in that dusty corner at the back of my memory I shall be in tears because of my total failure to do four-part dictation
QUOTE(Deborah @ Jan 23 2006, 10:09 AM)
If much more stirs in that dusty corner at the back of my memory I shall be in tears because of my total failure to do four-part dictation
Don't worry, all the 'clever' stuff is left off grade 6: no supertonic 7ths, no diminished 7ths, no Neopolitan 6ths.
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