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nicki_flute
*confused* *disappears from cafe*
organist_katy
QUOTE(nicki_flute @ Sep 4 2006, 08:05 PM) *

*confused* *disappears from cafe*

Sorry Nicki, I forgot I popped in here. Come back and we can talk to each other about non-technical things!! biggrin.gif
Oddball
I've never delved into Linux. Perhaps I should.
Rosemary7391
QUOTE(Oddball @ Sep 4 2006, 08:08 PM) *

I've never delved into Linux. Perhaps I should.


It'll be fun! And it doesn't cost anything...
nicki_flute
Helloooo Katy biggrin.gif What have you been doing today?
Rosemary7391
QUOTE(Oddball @ Sep 4 2006, 08:08 PM) *

I've never delved into Linux. Perhaps I should.


It'll be fun! And it doesn't cost anything.

Yes, come back Nicki! I should really be doing my math coursework anyway...
Oddball
QUOTE(Rosemary14 @ Sep 4 2006, 08:08 PM) *

QUOTE(Oddball @ Sep 4 2006, 08:08 PM) *

I've never delved into Linux. Perhaps I should.


It'll be fun! And it doesn't cost anything...


Does it not?!?!? huh.gif

Where can I get it? smile.gif
Rosemary7391
Hang on a sec and I'll find a link for a live distro for you!

Edit:
http://www.musix.org.ar/en/download.html

This ones a musically based Live CD- you need to burn it onto a CD then reboot your computer. It is a bit unstable so I'll try and find Mandrive 2006 which I know is good.

Edit2:
http://www.mandriva.com/en/download/mandrivaone

Theres a bunch of mirrors to choose from for a mandriva download! If you have bit torrent then you can download it that way too.
YetAnotherPianist
QUOTE(Oddball @ Sep 4 2006, 08:09 PM) *

Does it not?!?!? huh.gif

Where can I get it? smile.gif


The whole point of Linux is that it's free smile.gif.

If you want to boot it and try it out, have a look at Knoppix - a bootable Linux CD image. It runs all off the CD, so you don't need to install it:

http://www.knoppix.org/

Download the CD image, burn it to disc, and boot smile.gif.
organist_katy
QUOTE(nicki_flute @ Sep 4 2006, 08:08 PM) *

Helloooo Katy biggrin.gif What have you been doing today?

I went into RGS (my new school smile.gif) for a 'Shakespeare Day' which was basically to make sure everyone starting Eng Lit this term is on the same level. We got more done in 5 hours today than we did in most of Year 9, studying Macbeth for the SATs ph34r.gif Anyway after that I popped into town for some stationery (3 for 2 in WhSmiths! And it's so pretty....) and, erm, clothes (again). And a new bag.

I can't go on random shopping sprees now the holidays are over! That was my last one! laugh.gif
nicki_flute
Ooooh, yay WH Smiths stationery shopping biggrin.gif What does your new bag look like?

I can never go shopping - have band on Saturdays!
organist_katy
QUOTE(nicki_flute @ Sep 4 2006, 08:16 PM) *

Ooooh, yay WH Smiths stationery shopping biggrin.gif What does your new bag look like?

I can never go shopping - have band on Saturdays!

It's brown, and it's got strappy things on the front, and pockets on the side... and inside the lining is leopard print, which is a bit random but it actually looks really good biggrin.gif

I don't really have the money to do much more shopping anyway, so it's a good thing school's going to take up most of my time! I need a job....
Oddball
Looks like this Linux jobby is going to take a while to download...

1hr and 40 mins remaining....
Rosemary7391
It is an entire operating system... My musix one took days before. But that was a bit torrent, and it wasn't until after I realised I had got the old version!
Oddball
So when all this is done I can boot it? And then what happens...does my computer get munched in any way, shape or form?
Rosemary7391
Nope. Soon as you take the CD out you'll be able to boot up windows as normal, unless of course you deliberatly mount the windows section and deliberatly cause havoc.... Not that I've done that... ph34r.gif
YetAnotherPianist
It won't touch your hard drive or affect your computer at all: it's self-contained, boots off the CD, and runs all the software off the CD. If you want to save anything, you'll have to save it on the Internet or onto a USB key or something.

QUOTE
Nope. Soon as you take the CD out you'll be able to boot up windows as normal, unless of course you deliberatly mount the windows section and deliberatly cause havoc.... Not that I've done that...ph34r.gif


Tut tut, been tampering with school computers? Not that I would have done anything like that ph34r.gif.
Oddball
What do you mean by 'take the CD out' ? I haven't got a CD, I'm downloading a folder....

*Sorry if I'm being stupid*

EDT: Ooh, OK, so it's like a parallel universe I can just enter and come back to Windows again when I like? smile.gif
YetAnotherPianist
Inside the folder there'll be a CD image to burn to a CD, at least check there is....
Rosemary7391
Floppy disks are quite useful for that kind of thing. Makes a good temporary hard drive. Just remember teh floppy drive isn't A:\ anymore, its /mnt/floppy

QUOTE(YetAnotherPianist @ Sep 4 2006, 08:30 PM) *

It won't touch your hard drive or affect your computer at all: it's self-contained, boots off the CD, and runs all the software off the CD. If you want to save anything, you'll have to save it on the Internet or onto a USB key or something.

QUOTE
Nope. Soon as you take the CD out you'll be able to boot up windows as normal, unless of course you deliberatly mount the windows section and deliberatly cause havoc.... Not that I've done that...ph34r.gif


Tut tut, been tampering with school computers? Not that I would have done anything like that ph34r.gif.


Only to fix it... Some clever person had managed to change the font to one of those symbol fonts... Of course, I've threatened to actually damage it several times when the restrictions were being particularly annoying... ph34r.gif
Trebor
This is probably why computers at my school don't have cd drives...
YetAnotherPianist
QUOTE(Rosemary14 @ Sep 4 2006, 08:34 PM) *

Only to fix it... Some clever person had managed to change the font to one of those symbol fonts... Of course, I've threatened to actually damage it several times when the restrictions were being particularly annoying... ph34r.gif

Ahh, must be Windows 9x machines, or NT/2000/XP machines with FAT32 partitions? Linux still can't write to NTFS rolleyes.gif.

Didn't fancy doing 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda1' then? laugh.gif

QUOTE
This is probably why computers at my school don't have cd drives...

Ours had floppy drives the cable internally to connect the floppy drive to the motherboard was disconnected. Nothing six people working as a team can't fix though wink.gif.
Rosemary7391
QUOTE(Oddball @ Sep 4 2006, 08:31 PM) *

What do you mean by 'take the CD out' ? I haven't got a CD, I'm downloading a folder....

*Sorry if I'm being stupid*

EDT: Ooh, OK, so it's like a parallel universe I can just enter and come back to Windows again when I like? smile.gif


Yes, but you have to reboot each time.

Trebor, the reason your school computers don't have CD drives is probably because a lot of idiots manage to spend an entire lesson watching them open and close. Until they get bored and break them.
Oddball
My Hard Disk is NTFS - will this affect it?
Rosemary7391
Nope. It won't even touch the hard drive.

YAP, if I knew what dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda1 did, I might have done. And the restrictions meant I couldn't even use ctrl+alt+del unless I was VERY fast.
YetAnotherPianist
QUOTE(Oddball @ Sep 4 2006, 08:37 PM) *

My Hard Disk is NTFS - will this affect it?


No. It will mean Linux won't be able to save stuff to your hard drive; which is what you wanted anyway smile.gif.

QUOTE(Rosemary14 @ Sep 4 2006, 08:39 PM) *

YAP, if I knew what dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda1 did, I might have done. And the restrictions meant I couldn't even use ctrl+alt+del unless I was VERY fast.


dd is bit like cp but strange. It has its uses though:

dd if=/dev/fd0 of=imagefile bs=1024 count=1440

will copy a floppy disk to an imagefile: bs is short for block size (1024 = 1kb), 1440 tells it how many blocks to copy (1440 for a 1.44Mb disk).
Rosemary7391
Thanks! I think I can cause mayhem anyway though... The school security is virtually non exsistent if you just want to wander and delete a few files... I think i can even hack other peoples user areas. (Not that I would)
Oddball
Not that you'd ever want to do that, of course... ph34r.gif
Rosemary7391
QUOTE(Oddball @ Sep 4 2006, 08:46 PM) *

Not that you'd ever want to do that, of course... ph34r.gif


Yes! Often!
Oddball
Haha. I would've loved to cause havoc at my old school, but I didn't really know how to!

Still don't, to be honest... ph34r.gif
YetAnotherPianist
A large magnet? wink.gif
Oddball
That would've done it, yep! cool.gif
Trebor
Or a small bomb.
Rosemary7391
try renaming a few files in C:/windows or program files... The right ones and you should get inudated with error messages when programs can't find the files they need to run!
Oddball
Can't get to C:/. It's not in My Computer - all network drives. If I changed anything there, I'd only mess up my own account.... ph34r.gif
Rosemary7391
Not a good idea to destroy your own computer.

Edit: Unless you're about to reformat the hard drive to put linux on it!
Oddball
Not particulary! tongue.gif

Anyway guys, I'd better go. Linux still has another hour - I'll be back then to check it's downloaded OK smile.gif

Thanks you two! smile.gif
Rosemary7391
Don't mention it! pm me if you need any help, I'll do my best! I'd better head off now too. Night!
Oddball
OK that's downloaded...I'll put it on disc and play with it tomorrow.
IrisH - LoonY
Anyone alive?
nicki_flute
Am alive, but must go to bed!
sarah-flute
Nope, undead over here tongue.gif
carol*piano
I'm alive - are you IL, or are you just pretending? rolleyes.gif
Oddball
Morning all! What are we all doing today?

I am cycling into my new school this morning (5 miles ph34r.gif) to finalise my AS Level options. And then tomorrow....it beings.... ph34r.gif ph34r.gif
lizbun
Morning.
I'll be tidieng-up my room a tiny little bit, and then make sure my school stuff is there for tomorrow. not much else realy
Oddball
Excellent.

While I've been in the shower I've had a great idea for a little application I've been making - something that should make it much easier to work...I hope...
diapason

QUOTE(lizbun @ Sep 5 2006, 08:35 AM) *

Morning.
I'll be tidieng-up my room a tiny little bit, and then make sure my school stuff is there for tomorrow. not much else realy


Are you young people back to school / college this week, then? Most of our lot are on Thursday...... 6th form back next week.

Whenever, have a good start to the new term. Good luck wink.gif

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Oddball
I go back on Wednesday D, and I'm going to 6th form!
diapason
QUOTE(Oddball @ Sep 5 2006, 08:45 AM) *

I go back on Wednesday D, and I'm going to 6th form!


Excellent - for what subject? Music, I hope? unsure.gif
Oddball
Aye, music, maths, physics and computing.
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