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Not really a topic, but I've *observed* that examiners, when marking scales, mark mostly the technique rather than notes; eg. even if a scale collapses in terms of wrong flats/sharps/notes etc, if most of the scales are fluent and even, you can still get 18 and above. (They can tell they've been well prepared)
QUOTE(p_2005 @ Jun 17 2005, 05:44 PM)
Not really a topic, but I've *observed* that examiners, when marking scales, mark mostly the technique rather than notes; eg. even if a scale collapses in terms of wrong flats/sharps/notes etc, if most of the scales are fluent and even, you can still get 18 and above. (They can tell they've been well prepared)
Yes, I had a pupil take grade 6 last year and although very nervous and wobbling over a few she still got 18, the comment was well known although a few slips today or something.
could be true...as i totally mucked up my scales notewise for grade6 and kept having to repeat them but still got 16.
QUOTE(crazy_purple_piano_freak @ Jun 18 2005, 10:25 AM)
could be true...as i totally mucked up my scales notewise for grade6 and kept having to repeat them but still got 16.
I got 16 for my grade 6 scales...and that was including mistakes and none of my melodic minors being correct!
He did comment on that!
QUOTE(crazy_purple_piano_freak @ Jun 18 2005, 09:25 AM)
could be true...as i totally mucked up my scales notewise for grade6 and kept having to repeat them but still got 16.
My God, that's sooooo lucky. i only remember messing up in one in my grade 7 and making one or 2 slip ups in teh other scales and I faile the scales!
They are indeed looking for how underlyingly good the scales are: if your scales are all 'correct' but uneven or insecure you'll get far fewer marks than someone who has prepared musical, even scales, up to the correct speed but makes a few slips: it's obvious that's on the day and the person can actually play scales. In my opinion this is exactly the right way to be.
Why do you think that generally some people come out of the exam saying it was disasterous and then get a distinction; and some people come out saying it went really well and they get a pass? It's because they examiners are very good at seeing the underlying playing level through the nerves: stopping isn't something you'd be doing all the time in your practise if you were that good in the rest of your playing, you'd fix it; but if the general underlying playing isn't as good but you make no mistakes for you the examiner can still tell that you're not quite as good.
Why do you think that generally some people come out of the exam saying it was disasterous and then get a distinction; and some people come out saying it went really well and they get a pass? It's because they examiners are very good at seeing the underlying playing level through the nerves: stopping isn't something you'd be doing all the time in your practise if you were that good in the rest of your playing, you'd fix it; but if the general underlying playing isn't as good but you make no mistakes for you the examiner can still tell that you're not quite as good.
they take into account how nervous you are too dont they? i was shaking...
QUOTE(AnotherPianist @ Jun 18 2005, 07:03 AM)
Why do you think that generally some people come out of the exam saying it was disasterous and then get a distinction; and some people come out saying it went really well and they get a pass?
I think it's because people who are good at something are good enough to notice their problems. Those people who are not that good aren't able to spot their mistakes!
http://www.apa.org/monitor/feb03/overestimate.html
QUOTE(American Psychological Association)
Dunning [Cornell professor] is finding that the least competent performers inflate their abilities the most; that the reason for the overinflation seems to be ignorance, not arrogance; and that chronic self-beliefs, however inaccurate, underlie both people's over and underestimations of how well they're doing.
Very true...
Yeh my examiner said something about "a few slips" becasue I was really nervous and I expected a low mark but I got more than I expected!
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