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Andy-piano-flute
As many of my friends on the forums know saxlover & subatomic star's enthusiastic reports of how much they derived from the Kodaly day they went on back in April encouraged me to go on this year's summer school. I didn't really know what to expect but went (I hope) with an open mind but a great deal of apprehension.
I had a wonderful week & gained enormously as a musician from the experience. Kodaly believed that "Music should belong to everyone" (how very true) & that music literacy should be taught throughout schools from nusery through to teacher training & conservatoire levels. Also that the first musical instrument is the voice which is free & is for everyone, not just for the wealthy.
So was there a lot of singing - yes, everyday for much of the day in everything - common singing (warmups to start the day done as a large group), choir (I was in the SATB choir, there was also a female choir) , workshops - I went to the ones for the early years,solfege, conducting & more solfege. Can I sing? Well I was told as a child that I couldn't & have believed it ever since. Actually I found out I can sing &, not only that, but really enjoy it.
In solfege I was in the group for those with no previous knowledge of relative sol-fa. A mixed group from the incredibly brave lady from France who simply knew nothing about music & had literally never sung before, through people like me - who play instruments,read music,have taught themselves to sightsing a bit the hard way but who felt there were gaps in our musical ability that we couldn't find the answers to, to music teachers & really good singers.
Difficult to put into words what we learned & how it works - but at some point during the week I realised that I could now hear the music in my head, that relative solfa & the hand signs really do help me to see where the music is going & what it sounds like & that my feeling for rhythm & pulse (which I know has always been weak) was vastly improved. At the beginning of the week we were told that by the end of the week we would be singing 4 part canons & yes by the end of the week we could. In 10 minutes we learned a 4 phrase melody (dictated to us using hand signs). We then learned a variation on it & then were divided into groups of 2 or 3 & 2 groups sang the 1st version in canon while the other 2 groups sang the 2nd melody in canon against it - & it was brilliant biggrin.gif (well we thought so & I think Cyrilla did too)
In the workshops for the early years we gained the knowledge of how to teach children so they learn by experiencing music 1st, absorbing musical elements unconsciously (feeling the pulse, rhythm, hearing phrasing, pitch,etc), building up a repertoire of songs so they are happy to sing because it is fun.
Voluntarily helping with music (violins) in the local primary school I have increasingly felt frustrated by a system which at 7y.o. identifies children as musical based on their ability to sing back a melody in tune; gives them a chance to learn to play an instrument if they "pass" the test & labels the others as nonmusical. Almost every child can learn to sing in tune with the right help, repertoire & practice. It's an enormous shame that in the area where I live they aren't given the opportunity.
When I arrived home yesterday, completely shattered, & trying to explain to my husband what I'd learned I thought it might be easier to demonstrate. My 6y.o came in so we started with 1 of the very simple tunes that we initially learned, put in some appropriate actions & within minutes my 8y.o son arrived wanting to join in, closely followed by the older 2. When our singing session ended they wanted to know when we could do more.
Interestingly enough later on yesterday & today I keep hearing them singing unprompted the songs they learned, also improvising their own words & actions & my 8y.o. came to me & said "Mummy, singing is really fun"...
So start saving your pennies for next year's summer school. You have nothing to lose & everything to gain. I don't dispute that there may be other means to achieve the same objectives but this has worked for me. I am determined to give my children that opportunity too & if I can find some way of working with the local school I would like the children there to also benefit from it.
SteveHopwood
That sounds like such a lovely week. I enjoyed reading this hugely.

I hope you can persuade your local school to allow you to work with their pupils and allow them to benefit from your experiences. Think of the good you can do.

If only this could be available to all children. Still, come what may you own can benefit. Lucky kids.

Steve biggrin.gif
noodle
Thanks for sharing that with us Andy. It sounds as if you had a fantastic time as well as an educational one. I'll be there next year. I'm looking forward to it already! Anyone else??????
chocolatedog
Steve?.............. biggrin.gif How about it?
SteveHopwood
QUOTE(chocolatedog @ Aug 22 2005, 10:42 PM)
Steve?.............. biggrin.gif How about it?
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Rainbow
Oh, wow, this sounds fantastic! Does anyone know if there are any Kodaly events in North Yorkshire?
Jen W
Thanks for posting such a comprehensive account, Andy. You obviously had a marvellous time - and to (re)discover singing in that way - wonderful! I would love to do something like this (not sure if I could manage a week). I'm teaching myself solfege from books & CDs at the moment - apart from needing it for the aural requirements of the exams, I've realised how much I'd love to be able to sing at sight.

Jen smile.gif
nicki_flute
I am glad you had a good time and it has encouraged me even more to do it. The only trouble is, I have so much music stuff I want to do, it might not fit in, but if there is another Kodaly Day, I will definitely go. Thanks for all the details, too smile.gif
saxlover
So glad it turned out ok APF.

I hope you passed on my message to Hammerklavier tongue.gif laugh.gif
sbhoa
QUOTE(noodle @ Aug 22 2005, 10:40 PM)
Thanks for sharing that with us Andy.  It sounds as if you had a fantastic time as well as an educational one.  I'll be there next year.  I'm looking forward to it already!  Anyone else??????
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Saving up now.... smile.gif
Helen
Sounds fab Andy, I'm glad you had such a good time and it sounds like you benefitted immensly from the experience!

The summer workshop sounds great, and I would go if it wasn't for the remortgage of a house that I would need to pay for it blink.gif
neil.clarinet
Very good APF.

I have a vague hope I can make it next year. Depends on a lot of things.
janexxx
I'm hoping to go next year too. biggrin.gif
noodle
Thats great Janexxx, see you then. Looks as if there will be a few forums members there.
saxlover
Have a great time next year biggrin.gif
noodle
Thanks! Are you not going to join us Nat?
saxlover
Even if I wasn't on holiday,how on earth am I going to afford it?
neil.clarinet
QUOTE(saxlover @ Aug 23 2005, 04:06 PM)
Even if I wasn't on holiday,how on earth am I going to afford it?
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That's a question I am asking myself. unsure.gif
janexxx
Start saving now??
saxlover
From what? I don't have a job.
janexxx
Ahhh...slight problem.

Maybe you can start busking of a weekend with your sax??
saxlover
No-one would give me money I'm too terrible!
AnotherPianist
QUOTE(saxlover @ Aug 23 2005, 04:06 PM)
Even if I wasn't on holiday,how on earth am I going to afford it?
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Perhaps if you didn't go on holiday you'd be able to afford it laugh.gif (or at least convince your parents to pay for that instead...).
janexxx
QUOTE(saxlover @ Aug 23 2005, 04:16 PM)
No-one would give me money I'm too terrible!
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Oh no here we go again!!!

You are NOT terrible else how else would pass grade 8, and even if you were maybe they would pay you to stop playing rolleyes.gif

Another idea...lottery ticket?, or premium bonds than at least you can get your stake money back!
saxlover
I'll have a think
neil.clarinet
Yes if I go it would be instead of going on holiday (it would be the summer school, rather than Majorca, Italy, Cyprus...............Salzburg Festival and the like)
noodle
QUOTE(saxlover @ Aug 23 2005, 04:22 PM)
I'll have a think
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Thats good. It would be an interesting holiday!
saxlover
Does anyone even know the dates?
noodle
Cyrilla said she would know the dates when she gets back.
janexxx
CYRILLA!!!!!!
saxlover
She is actually on hols with Bagpuss at mo!
noodle
Yes, she said she'd know next years dates when she gets back from holiday with Bagpuss.
janexxx
I'll quit shouting then!!! laugh.gif
saxlover
Could be a good idea!
noodle
QUOTE(janexxx @ Aug 23 2005, 04:52 PM)
I'll quit shouting then!!! laugh.gif
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You might as well. I don't think she'll be able to hear you!
Andy-piano-flute
The dates for next year are August 6-13. The fee will be in the region of £650.
We could have a forum party there biggrin.gif
janexxx
QUOTE(Andy-piano-flute @ Aug 23 2005, 06:37 PM)
The dates for next year are August 6-13. The fee will be in the region of £650.
We could have a forum party there biggrin.gif
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Dates are in my diary biggrin.gif
saxlover
Right.......
Andy-piano-flute
And remember there's a student bar with student prices. (But don't try the "squashed frog" it was revolting).
nicki_flute
I think August the 6th sounds familiar unfortunately and it is so expensive. sad.gif
janexxx
QUOTE(nicki_flute @ Aug 23 2005, 06:53 PM)
I think August the 6th sounds familiar unfortunately and it is so expensive. sad.gif
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Is it cheaper non-residential? Nicki could you stay at home?
Andy-piano-flute
QUOTE(janexxx @ Aug 24 2005, 08:54 AM)
QUOTE(nicki_flute @ Aug 23 2005, 06:53 PM)
I think August the 6th sounds familiar unfortunately and it is so expensive. sad.gif
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Is it cheaper non-residential? Nicki could you stay at home?
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I don't think it's vastly cheaper to be nonresidential. This year the difference between bed & full board, & lunch/refreshments but not having a room, was about £100. It might also be difficult if you're relying on other people to drop off & collect you - it's a long day from 9 till about 6:45 & then there might be evening things you'd really want to go to.
nicki_flute
Yes, it would get awkward considering I can't drive (although by next August I may possibly!). I am going to do my tour again which will cost £400 and then if I do the flute course. I just don't have time to get a job and can't ask my parents to spend like £1000 on me in the summer.
Helen
I have come to the conclusion that I can't go. sad.gif Having checked prices of being non-residential, student and no meals provided, I still can't afford it. sad.gif Plus I'm going to switzerland with guides in July/August, so I can't afford it even more... sad.gif sad.gif
neil.clarinet
I kind of feel the same. All our money is going into my masters course. I'm aiming for 2007 at this rate. sad.gif
Helen
QUOTE(neil.clarinet @ Aug 24 2005, 05:05 PM)
I'm aiming for 2007 at this rate. sad.gif
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Same here. However I feel that by summer '07, a year of uni will have drained my bank account completely. blink.gif
neil.clarinet
Yes, so it could be EVEN later than 2007. This weekend course is about as good as I'll get for now.
AnotherPianist
QUOTE(Subatomic_Star @ Aug 24 2005, 05:12 PM)
QUOTE(neil.clarinet @ Aug 24 2005, 05:05 PM)
I'm aiming for 2007 at this rate. sad.gif
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Same here. However I feel that by summer '07, a year of uni will have drained my bank account completely. blink.gif
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You need to do for the Kodaly summer school whatever it is that you do to raise money for guides trips!
saxlover
Even if a miracle happens and I do get the money- I think I'll be too nervous to go
Andy-piano-flute
QUOTE(saxlover @ Aug 24 2005, 05:55 PM)
Even if a miracle happens and I do get the money- I think I'll be too nervous to go
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Nat, if I can do it you certainly can... biggrin.gif
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