CrazyDudette22
Aug 28 2005, 04:53 PM
Hey everybody!!! Sorry to disturb you but it turns out my hamster wasn't squeaking after all!!! It was a mouse!!! And he's kind of in the house under the sofa I think and I was just wondering what i should do... because it's a bit mean to kill it and someone told me to put the mouse in my hamsters cage and see if they become rodenty friends but it moves rrrrreeally fast!! (I've officially called it Ruban too) Thankyou!!
CrazyDudette22

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violin-ann
Aug 28 2005, 04:55 PM
Eek! You sure you want a mouse in your hamster's cage?
janexxx
Aug 28 2005, 04:57 PM
You can get traps that catch them alive, (like boxes they can get into but can't get out of) and then you can release them again into the wild.......but best to release it a long way from your house as it will be probably back inside before you otherwise
I don't think keeping a wild mouse as a pet (with the hamster) is a good idea. It will not be happy.
noodle
Aug 28 2005, 05:00 PM
Have you thought about a cat??? You can't keep a wild mouse in the cage with your hamster. It might attack the hamster.
Emma C
Aug 28 2005, 05:02 PM
If I were you I'd borrow a cat.... I can't bear the thought of mice hiding in my house... but then I'm cruel. However, if you get a nice cat like mine they carry it out of the house still alive, then I distract the cat and lock it in while the mouse escapes. But that's a work of art perfected over many years!
Good luck with it!
Noodelz
Aug 28 2005, 05:04 PM
You can buy these sticky paper things that are meant for bees. There bright yellow and you get thim in Homebase and B&Q etc.
Stick a big chunk of cheese in the middle and leave it there overnight, in the morning you should see the mouse stuck there, it's up to you what to do with it after.
Don't put it in the cage with your hamster, not a good idea.
Symphony
Aug 28 2005, 05:04 PM
Bad idea about putting it in with the hamster. Unless you're particularly scared of mice, Id advise to let it be ... Probably not doing any harm to anyone.
Or you could go with mouse poison, mouse trap etc. Getting a cat would be a horrible idea IMO - have you ever seen the live version of Cat and Mouse? Not for the faint, or the easily moved
Good luck with it
grand choeur
Aug 28 2005, 05:05 PM
Steaming pot of water
Onions
Potatoes
Noodles
Dumplings
hmm...
Emma C
Aug 28 2005, 05:06 PM
Not much meat on a mouse....
Good meal for a cat though!!!!
Noodelz
Aug 28 2005, 05:07 PM
QUOTE(grand choeur @ Aug 28 2005, 06:05 PM)
Steaming pot of water
Noodles
I hope you don't mean sticking me with that disease carrying rodent!
Andy-piano-flute
Aug 28 2005, 05:08 PM
Please do not put the mouse in with your hamster - they will fight & 1 or both will be horribly injured. Hamsters are solitary they do not need rodenty friends of any kind.
Use the sticky stuff if you don't want to use a humane trap. But remember if it's a female you could quite easily end up with a nest of babies somewhere in your house if you don't hurry up & do something about it.
grand choeur
Aug 28 2005, 05:08 PM
QUOTE(Noodelz @ Aug 28 2005, 01:07 PM)
QUOTE(grand choeur @ Aug 28 2005, 06:05 PM)
Steaming pot of water
Noodles
I hope you don't mean sticking me with that disease carrying rodent!
Good heavens no!
Just random thoughts...
Muahahahaha
grand choeur
Aug 28 2005, 05:10 PM
Was it Steel Pulse the Reggae group that had an 80s hit - There's a rat in my kitchen what I'm a gona do?
ho hum
jazzywench
Aug 28 2005, 05:31 PM
You can get these devices that plug in from hardware stores that send out electrical impulses along your wiring, where mice tend to run around. It deterrs them from running around the house and if you plug it where the mouse is either getting in or has nested, it should get it to leave without killing it and leave it on to also discourage them coming back! I know quite a few people who use this method and they've had good success with it.
Noodelz
Aug 28 2005, 05:41 PM
QUOTE(jazzywench @ Aug 28 2005, 06:31 PM)
You can get these devices that plug in from hardware stores that send out electrical impulses along your wiring, where mice tend to run around. It deterrs them from running around the house and if you plug it where the mouse is either getting in or has nested, it should get it to leave without killing it and leave it on to also discourage them coming back! I know quite a few people who use this method and they've had good success with it.
Wouldn't that make their babies mutated with all that radiation?
Imagine if you do have a female, BY GAWD your in trouble.
crazy_purple_piano_freak
Aug 28 2005, 05:45 PM
AW poor you Lou...i have rodent mouse phobia...eeekkk
CrazyDudette22
Aug 28 2005, 05:55 PM
QUOTE(crazy_purple_piano_freak @ Aug 28 2005, 05:45 PM)
AW poor you Lou...i have rodent mouse phobia...eeekkk

Lol kk so next time you come round I'll put that mouse in your slipper!! Only joking... thanks everyone by the way!! Well. i think. Emm... I could get one of those boxes where the mouse can come in and then as soon as it does that I'll put a lid on it and then put it in the garden!! Actually Ruban might come back in if I leave the back door open...where could I release him? hmmm... I'll try one of those sticky things probably!!My hamster and the mouse...babies...half mice half hamster...

what a weird thought!!
Noodelz
Aug 28 2005, 05:57 PM
Have you ever considered the toilet?
I'm so cruel.
CrazyDudette22
Aug 28 2005, 06:05 PM
QUOTE(Noodelz @ Aug 28 2005, 05:57 PM)
Have you ever considered the toilet?
I'm so cruel.

That's so mean Noodelz!! (No offence or anything) Emmm not sure about the loo

but there's always cats around in my area... but it's not that cruel for a cat to eat a mouse because it's kind of a part of the thingy cycle or something...
crazy_purple_piano_freak
Aug 28 2005, 06:14 PM
ewwwwww Noodlez!!!
grand choeur
Aug 28 2005, 06:17 PM
QUOTE(CrazyDudette22 @ Aug 28 2005, 01:55 PM)
QUOTE(crazy_purple_piano_freak @ Aug 28 2005, 05:45 PM)
AW poor you Lou...i have rodent mouse phobia...eeekkk

Lol kk so next time you come round I'll put that mouse in your slipper!! Only joking... thanks everyone by the way!! Well. i think. Emm... I could get one of those boxes where the mouse can come in and then as soon as it does that I'll put a lid on it and then put it in the garden!! Actually Ruban might come back in if I leave the back door open...where could I release him? hmmm... I'll try one of those sticky things probably!!My hamster and the mouse...babies...half mice half hamster...

what a weird thought!!
Ermm
Down the garbage disposal or garbage gobbler if you have one?
Do you have a blender by chance?
contick87546
Aug 28 2005, 06:21 PM
my snake would love a new mousey freind though for some reason he gives them a cuddle you know to say hi and i leave him alone for a bit and then the mouse has gone he must have a problem with keeping freinds ( and i cant for the life of me figure out what he eats)lol
Tess
Aug 28 2005, 06:29 PM
QUOTE(CrazyDudette22 @ Aug 28 2005, 04:53 PM)
Hey everybody!!! Sorry to disturb you but it turns out my hamster wasn't squeaking after all!!! It was a mouse!!! And he's kind of in the house under the sofa I think and I was just wondering what i should do... because it's a bit mean to kill it and someone told me to put the mouse in my hamsters cage and see if they become rodenty friends but it moves rrrrreeally fast!! (I've officially called it Ruban too) Thankyou!!
CrazyDudette22

xx
Telephone your local council health and safety department. They will do EVERYTHING for you. This is usually free of charge. Please don't pour hot water on the mouse or anything cruel. You will be prosecuted by the RSPCA if you live in the UK. There was a successful prosecution by the RSPCA of such an ignorant person many years ago on the grounds of cruelty.
contick87546
Aug 28 2005, 06:30 PM
oh and i dont realy feed the snake live mice ( you can just buy frozen how conveniant) i think live feeding is illegal anyway plus feeding live creates suffering for the mice danger for the snake( mice have actualy killed and seriously injured snakes ) and the inconveniance of having to breed them to get the right size for the snake
grand choeur
Aug 28 2005, 06:54 PM
QUOTE(contick87546 @ Aug 28 2005, 02:30 PM)
oh and i dont realy feed the snake live mice ( you can just buy frozen how conveniant) i think live feeding is illegal anyway plus feeding live creates suffering for the mice danger for the snake( mice have actualy killed and seriously injured snakes ) and the inconveniance of having to breed them to get the right size for the snake
Pray tell what happens to the mice in the wild where there are snakes and other predators about?
Noodelz
Aug 28 2005, 07:03 PM
Symphony
Aug 28 2005, 07:57 PM
QUOTE(CrazyDudette22 @ Aug 28 2005, 06:05 PM)
QUOTE(Noodelz @ Aug 28 2005, 05:57 PM)
Have you ever considered the toilet?
I'm so cruel.

That's so mean Noodelz!! (No offence or anything) Emmm not sure about the loo

but there's always cats around in my area... but it's not that cruel for a cat to eat a mouse because it's kind of a part of the thingy cycle or something...
Have you ever watched a cat kill a mouse? There's cruelty right in front of your eyes - it tortures it for about 10-15 minutes first!
contick87546
Aug 28 2005, 08:10 PM
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Pray tell what happens to the mice in the wild where there are snakes and other predators about?
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i appreciate your point but live feeding is too risky and is generaly frowned upon in the british reptile keeping hobby (except when the snake will not eat any over way) and even then is closely monitered if you want to see it i will pm you a link to a photo of a python that was attacked by a mouse it was given, but it is extremely graphic
musicmanNZ
Aug 28 2005, 08:48 PM
Our cat brings us mice as a gift. She is really pleased with herself and can't understand why the feeling isn't mutual. She has a very distinctive miaawwow that she uses as she squeezes through the cat flap, mousie in mouth. Never uses it any other time only when she's been hunting!
If you want to trap them a piece of cooked bacon spread with peanut butter is 100% irresistable to mice - works much better than cheese which only works in Tom and Jerry Cartons
You can get traps where the whole trap gets thrown away with Mr Mouse.
I won't tell you about the rats we had that climbed up the hole where the bathroom sink pipe goes and into our vanity unit. They ate Mum's goat's milk soap ( big gnaw marks all over it) and pinched lumps of the spare toilet rolls ... well I will tell you if you like
noodle
Aug 28 2005, 08:53 PM
My friends cat used to bring mice in through the cat flap and chase them round the kitchen. They don't have a cat-flap now!
jazzywench
Aug 28 2005, 09:20 PM
as much as I love my cats, when it comes to hunting, they are horrid little beasts.Endless torture for the poor little mouse which is distressed beyond measure. If it has a chance of living, I'll chase the cats away and let the thing escape but sometimes, it's just nearly kinder to let them finish it off if it's too badly attacked. One is a fantastic hunter and brings home his trophies for the other to play with ! Think he just likes to show off... domestic cats will rarely in my experience kill quickly as they don't do it as a survival tactic, more as a way to pass an afternoon...:rollseyes: I don't mind as much if they eat it, but often they just leave it for us to dispose of...
flute_gurl
Aug 28 2005, 09:22 PM
my cat likes to bring them to me, to show how good she's been. If she can't find me, she leaves them in my shoe so I can see them later...
noodle
Aug 28 2005, 09:27 PM
Isn't your cat kind???????????????
jazzywench
Aug 28 2005, 09:32 PM
Of course, they want to show how much they love you by bringing home some half dead animal when you step outside in your slippers and then bringing up a hair ball. And I love them, why? Although, saying that, we've never had a mouse problem....
noodle
Aug 28 2005, 09:43 PM
No, neither have we!
YetAnotherPianist
Aug 28 2005, 10:18 PM
Cats bring half-dead animals in an attempt to train humans to hunt. It's how they start with kittens - bring back something barely move for the kitten to practise on, then bring back progressively faster/bigger prey.
andante_in_c
Aug 29 2005, 08:18 AM
One Saturday morning I came downstairs, bleary-eyed, to pay the milkman. No 2 son, who was aged about four at the time said, 'There was a rat on the doormat, Mummy, but don't worry, I covered it up with the newspaper'. I thought, 'How sweet! I expect Holly (our cat at the time) has brought in a mouse, and he think's it's a rat'.
I opened the front door, careful not to step on the newspaper, and paid the milkman. After I shut the door, I lifted up the newspaper, and there on the mat was an enormous dead rat! My shriek woke the rest of the household.
noodle
Aug 29 2005, 08:40 AM
Thats awful! Look on the bright side - at least it was a dead rat not a very much alive one!
Emma C
Aug 29 2005, 09:15 AM
One of my cats has a habit of bringing in bats. Now they're ok when they are scared and you can just about manage then with a yogurt pot and wooden spoon. Knowing they're protected and all that - and never dead - I took one to the rescue place and they told me what to do.
Feeling all confident the next time, I got to the poor little thing armed with small box, damp cotton wool and scrunched up tissue, nudged it with the sonn, to see it take off and spend the rest of the night flying round the house.... I had to shut cat in the bathroom and venture out onto the landing to open a window sheltering under a blanket.
Needless to say said cat was then shut in at dusk...
Gae
Aug 29 2005, 10:31 AM
My cat is terrible and a real hunter. I think she's going through the entire animal population around the vicinity of my property. She's killed several bird's, moles and mice and one time she brought a mouse in the front door while in the midst of combat. She had made a strange meow sound that I hadn't heard before (as mentioned previously) and when I looked down, there on the floor, was a terrified mouse looking up and wondering what to do next. Luckily, I still had the door open and in an instance, the mouse ran straight out again, closely followed by the cat. After bringing in a dead bird another time, I decided to, from now on, go through a rigorous security check with her whenever she wants to come in. I leave the door on a hook so it's just narrow enough to keep her out and I only leave the windows open enough so she can't jump in until I let her in when I know she is alone. Having said that, I have heard her crashing her head against the window in an attempt to get in a couple of times. She does at least have a cat flap in the shed where she has a home from home if she wants.
I must admit I do have mixed feelings about cats killing other animals. On the one hand it is cruel and nasty to watch I admit, but on the other hand, just like Lions in the wild, we are witnessing the Natural Animal world at work where the survival instinct takes precedence over any conscience. We humans seem to be the only animals cursed with a conscience. I say cursed, not because I think we would be better without one, but because to some of us, it can cause us a lot of mental suffering and soul searching and make the less single-minded of us indecisive and confused when faced with certain situations..i.e. concerning survival instincts and self-preservation, both physical and mental...
Gae
Fen
Aug 29 2005, 11:21 AM
My cats like to leave me half mice. They thoughtfully array these in front of the piano, obviously they've worked out that it's of some significance to me so is an appropriate place to put their offerings!
I know exactly what you mean re the conscience thing Gae - nature red in tooth and claw and all that. I try and do my bit by making sure my little monsters are well fed so that they're at least without that tempation to hunt.
But seriously, if you have mice you need to deal with them asap, and put aside too much sentimentality I'm afraid.
I make no bones about this info being anything other than bluntly practical - if you're squeamish, avoid!
Firstly make sure you've removed tempation - food left lying around etc.
Get some traps, and if you're putting the trap somewhere hard to get to (such as an attic) tie the trap to a can of baked beans or similar with a length of string. This is to stop the trap moving somewhere inaccessible once it has a catch.
Next - bait. Cadbury's fruit and nut chocolate with a little peanut butter works well.
Check traps twice a day. If you're at home, you'll hear it. If you do hear it go off, do the decent thing and have something ready to dispatch the occupant if the trap hasn't done so.
Clean off the trap with some antibacterial spray and hot water, reset if necessary.
I'd avoid poison - if you have pets it's a risk to them, and once the mouse has ingested it, it's a long death and one that's likely to occur somewhere where you won't easily recover the body before it stinks...
Emma C
Aug 29 2005, 11:23 AM
Here's my killing machine on my profile picture, sitting on her favourite tree stump watching the hedge... Butter woudn't melt, but watch out mice, frogs, butterflies...
jazzywench
Aug 29 2005, 11:29 AM
Ahhh....cats...Nature's Gestapo...'Vee have vays of making you squeak!'
sarah-flute
Aug 29 2005, 01:18 PM
QUOTE(andante_in_c @ Aug 29 2005, 08:18 AM)
'How sweet! I expect Holly (our cat at the time) has brought in a mouse, and he think's it's a rat'....
D'oh...
sarah-flute
Aug 29 2005, 01:22 PM
Emma: your kitty is gorgeous! even if she's also an evil killing machine...
Yes, mum's cat has a "hello" noise and a "look aren't I clever" noise, very similar to the untrained ear, but needs must and as a family we got very good at interpreting which is which. She likes to catch baby bunnies and leave bottom halves lying around like bunny trousers... *bleh*
weejen
Aug 29 2005, 02:18 PM
Ekk! We had mice in our flat last year not a nice thing to wake up to, the scratching noises I mean! And my flatmate was in the kitchen and one ran across her foot! If you dont like mice I'd definetely advise against moving to Edinburgh as They get everywhere there! Ah well atleast its not rats you have!
Fen
Aug 29 2005, 02:27 PM
QUOTE(sarah-flute @ Aug 29 2005, 01:22 PM)
interpreting which is which. She likes to catch baby bunnies and leave bottom halves lying around like bunny trousers... *bleh*
oh dear... that's gruesome yet hilarious at the same time....
Emma C
Aug 29 2005, 03:00 PM
I think probalby the worst thing I have ever had presented was a baby rook. We have lots in the trees in the garden, and from time to time they fall out of the nest. As you can imaging they are very bald and pink, and have huge bulging eyes. They are also very big. Remind me of aliens....
Thank goodness I don't get rabbits brought in, but I think the native birds of prey get those...
jazzywench
Aug 29 2005, 03:03 PM
QUOTE(Fen @ Aug 29 2005, 02:27 PM)
QUOTE(sarah-flute @ Aug 29 2005, 01:22 PM)
interpreting which is which. She likes to catch baby bunnies and leave bottom halves lying around like bunny trousers... *bleh*
oh dear... that's gruesome yet hilarious at the same time....

Aww, she's just trying to catch you some fresh mukluks! Kate Moss would probably pay you for that priviledge!
violin-ann
Aug 29 2005, 03:58 PM
And wouldn't those impulses make your hair stand on end if you accidentally come into contact with them? Same for your hamster.
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