its just as good on flute+recorder
so y not play it on them??
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y is violin for violin?
its just as good on flute+recorder
so y not play it on them??
its just as good on flute+recorder
so y not play it on them??
Huh?
What's all this about????
i'm completely confused!
i'm completely confused!
QUOTE(Appassionata @ Sep 23 2005, 02:04 PM)
What's all this about????
i'm completely confused!
i'm completely confused!
music
QUOTE(sarah-flute @ Sep 23 2005, 02:01 PM)
Huh?
y is violin music for violin
QUOTE(Appassionata @ Sep 23 2005, 03:04 PM)
What's all this about????
i'm completely confused!
i'm completely confused!
Looks a bit like trolling to me.
I'm going to get the mods to check it out, just in case.
Cheers
Katyjay
Oh, replace Y with why, it makes a little more sense.
I think the question is 'Why must violin music only be played on violin when it sounds just as good on other instruments?'
Baroque violin music was, by and large, also for oboe, recorder, horn etc. etc. The concept was known as 'absolute music' - the instruments used were rather irrelevant. So one gets Bach concerti for two violins, or violin and oboe.
After the Baroque period, though, music started being written with specific instruments in mind - taking account of string crossing on string instruments, register crossing on wind instruments, etc. Of course, if you enjoy playing violin music on recorder, go ahead, there's nothing wrong with it
. Piers Adams certainly does a good job of it 
.
I think the question is 'Why must violin music only be played on violin when it sounds just as good on other instruments?'
Baroque violin music was, by and large, also for oboe, recorder, horn etc. etc. The concept was known as 'absolute music' - the instruments used were rather irrelevant. So one gets Bach concerti for two violins, or violin and oboe.
After the Baroque period, though, music started being written with specific instruments in mind - taking account of string crossing on string instruments, register crossing on wind instruments, etc. Of course, if you enjoy playing violin music on recorder, go ahead, there's nothing wrong with it
. Piers Adams certainly does a good job of it .
QUOTE(katyjay @ Sep 23 2005, 02:18 PM)
QUOTE(Appassionata @ Sep 23 2005, 03:04 PM)
What's all this about????
i'm completely confused!
i'm completely confused!
Looks a bit like trolling to me.
I'm going to get the mods to check it out, just in case.
Cheers
Katyjay
sorry did not mean to offend any one
just curious
You might just as well say then, why is flute music for flute, you could just as easily play it on a violin.
And you can't do double stops on a flute or recorder (
). Try playing the Bach Chaconne on one of those 
I think there is lots of music that has arrangements for other instruments other than the one it was written for. If it is a good piece then everyone wants to play it. But the composer must have originally had a certain sound in his/ her head when writing the piece for the original instrument.
Occasionally it may get other arrangements made by the composer too. Like the Prokofiev flute / violin sonata.
And you can't do double stops on a flute or recorder (
). Try playing the Bach Chaconne on one of those I think there is lots of music that has arrangements for other instruments other than the one it was written for. If it is a good piece then everyone wants to play it. But the composer must have originally had a certain sound in his/ her head when writing the piece for the original instrument.
Occasionally it may get other arrangements made by the composer too. Like the Prokofiev flute / violin sonata.
QUOTE(2nd ben3 @ Sep 23 2005, 03:09 PM)
QUOTE(sarah-flute @ Sep 23 2005, 02:01 PM)
Huh?
y is violin music for violin
because it wasn't composed for lemons?
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 23 2005, 02:46 PM)
You might just as well say then, why is flute music for flute, you could just as easily play it on a violin.
And you can't do double stops on a flute or recorder ( ). Try playing the Bach Chaconne on one of those
I think there is lots of music that has arrangements for other instruments other than the one it was written for. If it is a good piece then everyone wants to play it. But the composer must have originally had a certain sound in his/ her head when writing the piece for the original instrument.
Occasionally it may get other arrangements made by the composer too. Like the Prokofiev flute / violin sonata.
And you can't do double stops on a flute or recorder (
). Try playing the Bach Chaconne on one of those I think there is lots of music that has arrangements for other instruments other than the one it was written for. If it is a good piece then everyone wants to play it. But the composer must have originally had a certain sound in his/ her head when writing the piece for the original instrument.
Occasionally it may get other arrangements made by the composer too. Like the Prokofiev flute / violin sonata.
what r double stops?
what instrament was the Bach Chaconne ORIGINALLY for?
QUOTE(2nd ben3 @ Sep 23 2005, 04:35 PM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 23 2005, 02:46 PM)
You might just as well say then, why is flute music for flute, you could just as easily play it on a violin.
And you can't do double stops on a flute or recorder ( ). Try playing the Bach Chaconne on one of those Â
I think there is lots of music that has arrangements for other instruments other than the one it was written for. If it is a good piece then everyone wants to play it. But the composer must have originally had a certain sound in his/ her head when writing the piece for the original instrument.
Occasionally it may get other arrangements made by the composer too. Like the Prokofiev flute / violin sonata.
And you can't do double stops on a flute or recorder (
). Try playing the Bach Chaconne on one of those  I think there is lots of music that has arrangements for other instruments other than the one it was written for. If it is a good piece then everyone wants to play it. But the composer must have originally had a certain sound in his/ her head when writing the piece for the original instrument.
Occasionally it may get other arrangements made by the composer too. Like the Prokofiev flute / violin sonata.
what r double stops?
what instrament was the Bach Chaconne ORIGINALLY for?
Double stops are when you play more than string at a time (ie chords)
The Bach Chaconne is the last movement of the Partita no 2 of the Bach solo Sonatas and Partitas for VIOLIN (BWV 1004), and is full of chords!
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 23 2005, 04:40 PM)
Double stops are when you play more than string at a time (ie chords)
The Bach Chaconne is the last movement of the Partita no 2 of the Bach solo Sonatas and Partitas for VIOLIN (BWV 1004), and is full of chords!
The Bach Chaconne is the last movement of the Partita no 2 of the Bach solo Sonatas and Partitas for VIOLIN (BWV 1004), and is full of chords!
So full of chords, in fact, that Busoni managed to make a fiendish arrangement of it for piano without having to bulk it out excessively
.
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 23 2005, 03:46 PM)
And you can't do double stops on a flute or recorder (
). Two flutes or recorders together, each played by one hand : you can give it a try
?
QUOTE(another crazy pianist @ Sep 23 2005, 08:22 PM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 23 2005, 03:46 PM)
And you can't do double stops on a flute or recorder (
). Two flutes or recorders together, each played by one hand : you can give it a try
?I know someone who can play the match of the day theme in thirds with a penny whistle in each nostril.
Anyone at the forum concert tomorrow I *might* tell you who it is, if you ask
I'll try and remember . At least I'll have a pencil handy!
Car Expert
. At least I'll have a pencil handy!Car Expert
[quote=janexxx,Sep 23 2005, 09:15 PM]
[quote=another crazy pianist,Sep 23 2005, 08:22 PM][quote=janexxx,Sep 23 2005, 03:46 PM]
I know someone who can play the match of the day theme in thirds with a penny whistle in each nostril.
Anyone at the forum concert tomorrow I *might* tell you who it is, if you ask
[/quote]
So who is it ?
[quote=another crazy pianist,Sep 23 2005, 08:22 PM][quote=janexxx,Sep 23 2005, 03:46 PM]
I know someone who can play the match of the day theme in thirds with a penny whistle in each nostril.
Anyone at the forum concert tomorrow I *might* tell you who it is, if you ask
[/quote]
So who is it ?
Oh I see !! Congratulations ! I won't be there though.
I won't be there though.
[quote=another crazy pianist,Sep 23 2005, 09:19 PM]
[quote=janexxx,Sep 23 2005, 09:15 PM]
[quote=another crazy pianist,Sep 23 2005, 08:22 PM][quote=janexxx,Sep 23 2005, 03:46 PM]
I know someone who can play the match of the day theme in thirds with a penny whistle in each nostril.
Anyone at the forum concert tomorrow I *might* tell you who it is, if you ask
[/quote]
So who is it ?
[/quote]
Hmmm can't say here
[quote=janexxx,Sep 23 2005, 09:15 PM]
[quote=another crazy pianist,Sep 23 2005, 08:22 PM][quote=janexxx,Sep 23 2005, 03:46 PM]
I know someone who can play the match of the day theme in thirds with a penny whistle in each nostril.
Anyone at the forum concert tomorrow I *might* tell you who it is, if you ask
[/quote]
So who is it ?
[/quote]
Hmmm can't say here
The famous 'Toccata and Fugue' (attributed to Bach, because nobody really knows for sure if he did write it) was originally written for violin. I have a copy of it with a preface that contains some pretty substantial evidence that it was composed for a bowed string instrument.
The polyphonic writing suits the violin far better than the heavily notated and cumbersome sounding form that you need to play it on the organ.
The polyphonic writing suits the violin far better than the heavily notated and cumbersome sounding form that you need to play it on the organ.
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 23 2005, 09:15 PM)
QUOTE(another crazy pianist @ Sep 23 2005, 08:22 PM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 23 2005, 03:46 PM)
And you can't do double stops on a flute or recorder (
). Two flutes or recorders together, each played by one hand : you can give it a try
?I know someone who can play the match of the day theme in thirds with a penny whistle in each nostril.
Anyone at the forum concert tomorrow I *might* tell you who it is, if you ask
D'oh, forgot to ask!
Car Expert
I've played some of the Bach violin Partitas on recorder, and the Paganini Caprices arranged for flute. The double stops are played as arpeggiated grace notes, and are fairly tricky.
QUOTE(AmandaL @ Sep 24 2005, 06:50 PM)
The famous 'Toccata and Fugue' (attributed to Bach, because nobody really knows for sure if he did write it) was originally written for violin. I have a copy of it with a preface that contains some pretty substantial evidence that it was composed for a bowed string instrument.
The polyphonic writing suits the violin far better than the heavily notated and cumbersome sounding form that you need to play it on the organ.
The polyphonic writing suits the violin far better than the heavily notated and cumbersome sounding form that you need to play it on the organ.
Woooo. That would be very cool indeed.
I'm sure I've heard it as an orchestral piece.
Andante: heard of the Caprices arranged for flute... they sound HARD!
QUOTE(Car Expert @ Sep 24 2005, 07:53 PM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 23 2005, 09:15 PM)
QUOTE(another crazy pianist @ Sep 23 2005, 08:22 PM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 23 2005, 03:46 PM)
And you can't do double stops on a flute or recorder (
). Two flutes or recorders together, each played by one hand : you can give it a try
?I know someone who can play the match of the day theme in thirds with a penny whistle in each nostril.
Anyone at the forum concert tomorrow I *might* tell you who it is, if you ask
D'oh, forgot to ask!
Car Expert
So now you'll never know
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 25 2005, 11:22 AM)
QUOTE(Car Expert @ Sep 24 2005, 07:53 PM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 23 2005, 09:15 PM)
QUOTE(another crazy pianist @ Sep 23 2005, 08:22 PM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 23 2005, 03:46 PM)
And you can't do double stops on a flute or recorder (
). Two flutes or recorders together, each played by one hand : you can give it a try
?I know someone who can play the match of the day theme in thirds with a penny whistle in each nostril.
Anyone at the forum concert tomorrow I *might* tell you who it is, if you ask
D'oh, forgot to ask!
Car Expert
So now you'll never know
It's you??
QUOTE(saxlover @ Sep 28 2005, 08:31 AM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 25 2005, 11:22 AM)
QUOTE(Car Expert @ Sep 24 2005, 07:53 PM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 23 2005, 09:15 PM)
QUOTE(another crazy pianist @ Sep 23 2005, 08:22 PM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 23 2005, 03:46 PM)
And you can't do double stops on a flute or recorder (
). Two flutes or recorders together, each played by one hand : you can give it a try
?I know someone who can play the match of the day theme in thirds with a penny whistle in each nostril.
Anyone at the forum concert tomorrow I *might* tell you who it is, if you ask
D'oh, forgot to ask!
Car Expert
So now you'll never know
It's you??
No, not me.
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 28 2005, 08:36 AM)
QUOTE(saxlover @ Sep 28 2005, 08:31 AM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 25 2005, 11:22 AM)
QUOTE(Car Expert @ Sep 24 2005, 07:53 PM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 23 2005, 09:15 PM)
QUOTE(another crazy pianist @ Sep 23 2005, 08:22 PM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 23 2005, 03:46 PM)
And you can't do double stops on a flute or recorder (
). Two flutes or recorders together, each played by one hand : you can give it a try
?I know someone who can play the match of the day theme in thirds with a penny whistle in each nostril.
Anyone at the forum concert tomorrow I *might* tell you who it is, if you ask
D'oh, forgot to ask!
Car Expert
So now you'll never know
It's you??
No, not me.
Someone from the forums?
Car Expert
QUOTE(Car Expert @ Sep 29 2005, 04:16 PM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 28 2005, 08:36 AM)
QUOTE(saxlover @ Sep 28 2005, 08:31 AM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 25 2005, 11:22 AM)
QUOTE(Car Expert @ Sep 24 2005, 07:53 PM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 23 2005, 09:15 PM)
QUOTE(another crazy pianist @ Sep 23 2005, 08:22 PM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 23 2005, 03:46 PM)
And you can't do double stops on a flute or recorder (
). Two flutes or recorders together, each played by one hand : you can give it a try
?I know someone who can play the match of the day theme in thirds with a penny whistle in each nostril.
Anyone at the forum concert tomorrow I *might* tell you who it is, if you ask
D'oh, forgot to ask!
Car Expert
So now you'll never know
It's you??
No, not me.
Someone from the forums?
Car Expert
Nope!
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 29 2005, 04:21 PM)
QUOTE(Car Expert @ Sep 29 2005, 04:16 PM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 28 2005, 08:36 AM)
QUOTE(saxlover @ Sep 28 2005, 08:31 AM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 25 2005, 11:22 AM)
QUOTE(Car Expert @ Sep 24 2005, 07:53 PM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 23 2005, 09:15 PM)
QUOTE(another crazy pianist @ Sep 23 2005, 08:22 PM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 23 2005, 03:46 PM)
And you can't do double stops on a flute or recorder (
). Two flutes or recorders together, each played by one hand : you can give it a try
?I know someone who can play the match of the day theme in thirds with a penny whistle in each nostril.
Anyone at the forum concert tomorrow I *might* tell you who it is, if you ask
D'oh, forgot to ask!
Car Expert
So now you'll never know
It's you??
No, not me.
Someone from the forums?
Car Expert
Nope!
Family relation?
Car Expert
QUOTE(Car Expert @ Sep 29 2005, 04:22 PM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 29 2005, 04:21 PM)
QUOTE(Car Expert @ Sep 29 2005, 04:16 PM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 28 2005, 08:36 AM)
QUOTE(saxlover @ Sep 28 2005, 08:31 AM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 25 2005, 11:22 AM)
QUOTE(Car Expert @ Sep 24 2005, 07:53 PM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 23 2005, 09:15 PM)
QUOTE(another crazy pianist @ Sep 23 2005, 08:22 PM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 23 2005, 03:46 PM)
And you can't do double stops on a flute or recorder (
). Two flutes or recorders together, each played by one hand : you can give it a try
?I know someone who can play the match of the day theme in thirds with a penny whistle in each nostril.
Anyone at the forum concert tomorrow I *might* tell you who it is, if you ask
D'oh, forgot to ask!
Car Expert
So now you'll never know
It's you??
No, not me.
Someone from the forums?
Car Expert
Nope!
Family relation?
Car Expert
Nope!!!
QUOTE(Car Expert @ Sep 29 2005, 04:22 PM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 29 2005, 04:21 PM)
QUOTE(Car Expert @ Sep 29 2005, 04:16 PM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 28 2005, 08:36 AM)
QUOTE(saxlover @ Sep 28 2005, 08:31 AM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 25 2005, 11:22 AM)
QUOTE(Car Expert @ Sep 24 2005, 07:53 PM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 23 2005, 09:15 PM)
QUOTE(another crazy pianist @ Sep 23 2005, 08:22 PM)
QUOTE(janexxx @ Sep 23 2005, 03:46 PM)
And you can't do double stops on a flute or recorder (
). Two flutes or recorders together, each played by one hand : you can give it a try
?I know someone who can play the match of the day theme in thirds with a penny whistle in each nostril.
Anyone at the forum concert tomorrow I *might* tell you who it is, if you ask
D'oh, forgot to ask!
Car Expert
So now you'll never know
It's you??
No, not me.
Someone from the forums?
Car Expert
Nope!
Family relation?
Car Expert
Archie?
Archie?
Car Expert
Car Expert
SNAP, great minds think alike!
Car Expert
Car Expert
Or fools seldom differ.....
Well you never know, Archie can play the piano!
Car Expert
Car Expert
QUOTE(katyjay @ Sep 29 2005, 04:23 PM)
Archie?
Now I wish it was.....I could make a fortune with him on the tv
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