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2nd ben3
Hello huh.gif any one know how to get higher then G on descant C on treble?
sarah-flute
Why not search on www.google.co.uk for recorder fingering charts?

A ( D on treble) is just what you would expect, ie same as an octave below, though you might have to cover more of the thumb hole.

Further up than that it's into cross-fingerings and I can only ever remember any of them if I've a recorder in my hands, which I don't!
2nd ben3
QUOTE(sarah-flute @ Sep 27 2005, 09:49 PM)
Why not search on www.google.co.uk for recorder fingering charts?

A ( D on treble) is just what you would expect, ie same as an octave below, though you might have to cover more of the thumb hole.

Further up than that it's into cross-fingerings and I can only ever remember any of them if I've a recorder in my hands, which I don't!
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Yes I can do all fo them its the g above that im having problems with sad.gif
sarah-flute
this one looks good for descantsI don't know which G you mean then... sorry, I'm confused.

google page on recorder fingering charts

2nd ben3
QUOTE(sarah-flute @ Sep 27 2005, 09:58 PM)
I don't know which G you mean then... sorry, I'm confused.

google page on recorder fingering charts
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well, I get one G that's the lowest one that a descant recorder can get ok?
then there is the next smile.gif
and one more well that's it.

Ben
ruthypegs
If it is the one that I think you are asking about (about 5 or 6 ledger lines up) if is finger 1 and 4 and thumb pinched and BLOW HARD!!!! hope that is the right fingering!
sarah-flute
QUOTE(2nd ben3 @ Sep 27 2005, 10:02 PM)
well, I get one G that's the lowest one that a descant recorder can get ok?
then there is the next smile.gif
and one more well that's it.

Ben
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And you want to go higher than that top G or what?
zauberfagott
As you get progressively higher, you let less air out of the thumb hole. You'll also need a faster air speed.

Try slurring from the note below it, it might make it easier to figure out what and how you need to change to get higher.
erard
Put descant down, pick up sopranino or garklein...
Deborah
Go to the Dolmetsch website, they've got a fingering chart there.
elidatrading
QUOTE(2nd ben3 @ Sep 27 2005, 09:46 PM)
Hello huh.gif  any one know how to get higher then G on descant C on treble?
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You mean a range of more than 2.5 octaves? Why in the world would you WANT to?!

liz
GoneChopinBachSoon
Treble/Sopranino/Bass

high G# is middle and 4th fingers in both hands and thumb down
high A is the same with the bell closed with the knee
high B flat is index and middle fingers in both hands with bell closed and thumb
high B (a bit flat) is the same as above without the bell closed
high C is both index fingers and thumb overblown

this high C is used as the last note of the 1st movement of Bach's C minor Partita for solo recorder BWV1013
elidatrading
QUOTE(GoneChopinBachSoon @ Sep 29 2005, 10:26 PM)
Treble/Sopranino/Bass

high G# is middle and 4th fingers in both hands and thumb down
high A is the same with the bell closed with the knee
high B flat is index and middle fingers in both hands with bell closed and thumb
high B (a bit flat) is the same as above without the bell closed
high C is both index fingers and thumb overblown

this high C is used as the last note of the 1st movement of Bach's C minor Partita for solo recorder BWV1013
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I think the original poster is talking about the NEXT octave up. I still can't imagine why.

Liz
GoneChopinBachSoon
QUOTE(elidatrading @ Sep 29 2005, 10:49 PM)
QUOTE(GoneChopinBachSoon @ Sep 29 2005, 10:26 PM)
Treble/Sopranino/Bass

high G# is middle and 4th fingers in both hands and thumb down
high A is the same with the bell closed with the knee
high B flat is index and middle fingers in both hands with bell closed and thumb
high B (a bit flat) is the same as above without the bell closed
high C is both index fingers and thumb overblown

this high C is used as the last note of the 1st movement of Bach's C minor Partita for solo recorder BWV1013
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I think the original poster is talking about the NEXT octave up. I still can't imagine why.

Liz
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they ARE in the next octave. we're talking around the top register of a flute i.e. at least 4 ledger lines above the stave
andante_in_c
QUOTE(GoneChopinBachSoon @ Sep 29 2005, 11:26 PM)


this high C is used as the last note of the 1st movement of Bach's C minor Partita for solo recorder BWV1013
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You mean the recorder transcription of Bach's Partita for solo flute in A minor.
Bach wrote the first movement to end on the highest note possible on a baroque flute: top A. I'm sure he did not have stratospheric recorder notes in mind.

The top A is bad enough on a Boehm flute at the end of that movement. biggrin.gif
elidatrading
QUOTE(GoneChopinBachSoon @ Sep 29 2005, 10:56 PM)
QUOTE(elidatrading @ Sep 29 2005, 10:49 PM)
QUOTE(GoneChopinBachSoon @ Sep 29 2005, 10:26 PM)
Treble/Sopranino/Bass

high G# is middle and 4th fingers in both hands and thumb down
high A is the same with the bell closed with the knee
high B flat is index and middle fingers in both hands with bell closed and thumb
high B (a bit flat) is the same as above without the bell closed
high C is both index fingers and thumb overblown

this high C is used as the last note of the 1st movement of Bach's C minor Partita for solo recorder BWV1013
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I think the original poster is talking about the NEXT octave up. I still can't imagine why.

Liz
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they ARE in the next octave. we're talking around the top register of a flute i.e. at least 4 ledger lines above the stave
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Chopin, at the risk of seeming to pull rank, I have an LGSM in recorder and I do know what I am talking about. The treble recorder plays two fully chromatic octaves up to the F above the stave (three lines and a space up). A further fifth is possible using combinations of overblowing and stopping the end with the knee (though G and A flat do not present a problem in this department) with the top C being the note that is above the fifth ledger line above the stave - yes this corresponds to the top C on a flute. the original poster , as I understand it, was asking for the G above that ie. above the SEVENTH ledger line. And i repeat, I can't imagine why. I had to do two octaves of C major - on a treble - for my LGSM and that was quite painful enough!!

Liz

GoneChopinBachSoon
QUOTE(elidatrading @ Sep 30 2005, 12:51 PM)
QUOTE(GoneChopinBachSoon @ Sep 29 2005, 10:56 PM)
QUOTE(elidatrading @ Sep 29 2005, 10:49 PM)
QUOTE(GoneChopinBachSoon @ Sep 29 2005, 10:26 PM)
Treble/Sopranino/Bass

high G# is middle and 4th fingers in both hands and thumb down
high A is the same with the bell closed with the knee
high B flat is index and middle fingers in both hands with bell closed and thumb
high B (a bit flat) is the same as above without the bell closed
high C is both index fingers and thumb overblown

this high C is used as the last note of the 1st movement of Bach's C minor Partita for solo recorder BWV1013
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I think the original poster is talking about the NEXT octave up. I still can't imagine why.

Liz
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they ARE in the next octave. we're talking around the top register of a flute i.e. at least 4 ledger lines above the stave
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Chopin, at the risk of seeming to pull rank, I have an LGSM in recorder and I do know what I am talking about. The treble recorder plays two fully chromatic octaves up to the F above the stave (three lines and a space up). A further fifth is possible using combinations of overblowing and stopping the end with the knee (though G and A flat do not present a problem in this department) with the top C being the note that is above the fifth ledger line above the stave - yes this corresponds to the top C on a flute. the original poster , as I understand it, was asking for the G above that ie. above the SEVENTH ledger line. And i repeat, I can't imagine why. I had to do two octaves of C major - on a treble - for my LGSM and that was quite painful enough!!

Liz
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sheesh SOR-RY!
elidatrading
No problem. Well done in your GCSEs especially the A* - you must have been pleased with that.

liz
GoneChopinBachSoon
QUOTE(elidatrading @ Oct 1 2005, 07:54 AM)
No problem.  Well done in your GCSEs especially the A* - you must have been pleased with that.

liz
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thank you...yes i was VERY pleased with it! i thought i got a D in music even though its my best subject. Thought i was looking at mostly D grades!
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