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hey!I love singing but my voice is not strong, i really need some advice on exercises i could practice.My voice has improved over the last few months but only a little bit.Its getting me down because im doing singing in school and the other girls who are doing it have much stronger and nicer voices.I need help to increase my range upwards too.Please help!
Hi PSL
I know you've asked this question before, and I'm sorry that the answers you got weren't enough help for you. To be honest, the best help you could get would be to have lessons with a singing teacher. But as that's not available to you, lets look at what you can do to improve your voice.
The quality of your singing, and to some degree the range you can sing, depends on how you support your voice.
This is what I said about support in a previous thread on the forum:
Try singing a "yah" as I describe above. First do it on the C above middle C. Then when you're comfortable with doing that, try doing a downward arpeggio - C, G, E, C. Let each note fly away from you and then breathe in to sing the next note. Then try the same thing again, but sing the whole arpeggio on one breath.
Then do it again on B, then Bb and on down as far as you can go. Then try it again from the C and do it on C#, D, Eb.....and as far up as you can go. You may well be surprised at how far that is.
It's an effective way of warming up and getting your voice working. Once you've got used to it, try and use the same method of starting a note, but with the tune and words of a song.
Good luck.
Cheers
Katyjay
I know you've asked this question before, and I'm sorry that the answers you got weren't enough help for you. To be honest, the best help you could get would be to have lessons with a singing teacher. But as that's not available to you, lets look at what you can do to improve your voice.
The quality of your singing, and to some degree the range you can sing, depends on how you support your voice.
This is what I said about support in a previous thread on the forum:
QUOTE(katyjay @ Aug 30 2005, 09:24 AM)
For me, support happens when my whole body is physically relaxed and I put all my mental and physical energy into the music.
I don't make conscious muscle movements, and certainly don't do anything to my diaphragm or throat, I put all my concentration into enjoying the sound that comes out - whether or not anyone else does
.
I describe it as singing with the whole of me - not from the neck up, or the diaphragm up, but from the toes up.
If the air coming out from inside me is relaxed and energised, the voice will be supported, otherwise it won't.
If I try to intervene and make my diaphragm or throat or abdominal muscles do something, the result is a nasty, unsupported, strangulated squeak.
My body knows how to breathe rather better than my mind does, so I have to let it get on with it.
One way to feel support is to give a really heavy sigh. Then once your breath has come in again, do the sigh again, but as soon as it's started let a note from the middle of your range come out to "yah".
Imagine that note disappearing off into the ether, and notice how your body feels as the breath begins to run out.
If it's a sensation that every drop of air from your body is going into the sound, then you'll feel and hear real support. And your body will automatically take another breath ready for the next sound.
So the next time, try it without doing the sigh first, just relax the breath out and see what happens......
I don't make conscious muscle movements, and certainly don't do anything to my diaphragm or throat, I put all my concentration into enjoying the sound that comes out - whether or not anyone else does
. I describe it as singing with the whole of me - not from the neck up, or the diaphragm up, but from the toes up.
If the air coming out from inside me is relaxed and energised, the voice will be supported, otherwise it won't.
If I try to intervene and make my diaphragm or throat or abdominal muscles do something, the result is a nasty, unsupported, strangulated squeak.
My body knows how to breathe rather better than my mind does, so I have to let it get on with it.
One way to feel support is to give a really heavy sigh. Then once your breath has come in again, do the sigh again, but as soon as it's started let a note from the middle of your range come out to "yah".
Imagine that note disappearing off into the ether, and notice how your body feels as the breath begins to run out.
If it's a sensation that every drop of air from your body is going into the sound, then you'll feel and hear real support. And your body will automatically take another breath ready for the next sound.
So the next time, try it without doing the sigh first, just relax the breath out and see what happens......
Try singing a "yah" as I describe above. First do it on the C above middle C. Then when you're comfortable with doing that, try doing a downward arpeggio - C, G, E, C. Let each note fly away from you and then breathe in to sing the next note. Then try the same thing again, but sing the whole arpeggio on one breath.
Then do it again on B, then Bb and on down as far as you can go. Then try it again from the C and do it on C#, D, Eb.....and as far up as you can go. You may well be surprised at how far that is.
It's an effective way of warming up and getting your voice working. Once you've got used to it, try and use the same method of starting a note, but with the tune and words of a song.
Good luck.
Cheers
Katyjay
Thank you so much, 
yeah that was really helpful,lol,ive just tried it the now on my piano.Im going to try it again whenever i warm up. 
cheers again Lauren
yeah that was really helpful,lol,ive just tried it the now on my piano.Im going to try it again whenever i warm up. cheers again Lauren
Hey katyjay,im just curious to know how much you enjoy teaching music, im planning to get into music teaching at a secondry school (if i pass my higher and learn how to sing,lol). A lot of people say im mad wanting to be a teacher but i think it would be great. Just curious thanks
I'm sorry, piano*singing*lover, but I'm the wrong person to ask.
1. I only have three pupils, and the longest of those has just had her second lesson with me!
2. I'm a failed classroom teacher in mathematics - I tried it for a year fifteen years ago and gave up to become an accountant.
So far, the singing teaching, which is one-on-one has been fun. But it's nowhere near enough experience for me to give you advice of any sort on teaching.
I suggest you have a look at the Teachers' forum - where the real teachers are. And look also at any posts by Saxlover, who has just started Uni with the ambition to become a teacher.
Best of luck.
Cheers
Katyjay
1. I only have three pupils, and the longest of those has just had her second lesson with me!
2. I'm a failed classroom teacher in mathematics - I tried it for a year fifteen years ago and gave up to become an accountant.
So far, the singing teaching, which is one-on-one has been fun. But it's nowhere near enough experience for me to give you advice of any sort on teaching.
I suggest you have a look at the Teachers' forum - where the real teachers are. And look also at any posts by Saxlover, who has just started Uni with the ambition to become a teacher.
Best of luck.
Cheers
Katyjay
aw thanks hen, you just seem really experienced in singing so i assumed u were a teacher. Your advice was really helpful and my range has gone upwards a little so am really glad. Where was it you learnt about singing tecniques. PSL
aw thanks hen, you just seem really experienced in singing so i assumed u were a teacher. Your advice was really helpful and my range has gone upwards a little so am really glad. Where was it you learnt about singing tecniques. PSL
QUOTE(piano*singing*lover @ Oct 5 2005, 09:08 PM)
aw thanks hen, you just seem really experienced in singing so i assumed u were a teacher. Your advice was really helpful and my range has gone upwards a little so am really glad. Where was it you learnt about singing tecniques. PSL
Glad to have helped
. Everything I've learned about techniques has been from having almost three years of lessons with a terrific teacher.Cheers
Katyjay
QUOTE(katyjay @ Oct 5 2005, 08:24 PM)
QUOTE(piano*singing*lover @ Oct 5 2005, 09:08 PM)
aw thanks hen, you just seem really experienced in singing so i assumed u were a teacher. Your advice was really helpful and my range has gone upwards a little so am really glad. Where was it you learnt about singing tecniques. PSL
Glad to have helped
. Everything I've learned about techniques has been from having almost three years of lessons with a terrific teacher.Cheers
Katyjay
anyone can help me to calculate this singer's vocal range through these two songs...She is a Malaysian singer..
Siti Nurhaliza - My All (LIVE)
Siti Nurhaliza - Kurniaan Dalam Samaran (i really want to know this type of voice of this song..please..) ..Is she placed in lyric mezzo-soprano voice type??
thanks in advance!!
Voice type:
Highest note:
Lowest note:
Vocal range:
I'm sorry mbnh. I'm in the UK, and I don't know anything about Malaysian songs or singers.
And I'm afraid I never follow URL links when I don't know anything about the person posting them - as is the case with you. Perhaps if you told us a bit more about yourself and your reasons for asking we'd be able to help you more.
I suggest you look on Google to find information about this performer.
Best wishes
Katyjay
And I'm afraid I never follow URL links when I don't know anything about the person posting them - as is the case with you. Perhaps if you told us a bit more about yourself and your reasons for asking we'd be able to help you more.
I suggest you look on Google to find information about this performer.
Best wishes
Katyjay
hey, did u learn any other exercises that were good so i can try all different warm ups and tecniques? thanks psl
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