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GoneChopinBachSoon
i believe this 3rd pedal is used to hold one chord and not anything else
e.g. Rachmaninov Prelude in C# minor last 16 bars....thundering C#minor chord at the bottom then 3 chords at the other end all unblurred and all sustained

is this true?
sarah-flute
Depends on the piano I believe - on an upright it's a practice (mute) pedal, on a grand it sustains the note(s) you are playing when it is held down but no others. Don't know how it works exactly - never had the pleasure. That's how I understand it - pianists will obviously be able to help more.
GoneChopinBachSoon
ok
YetAnotherPianist
Spot on, Sarah.

If one doesn't have a luxury, it can be faked to a certain extent through half-pedalling; takes a little practice, but it's worth it.
sarah-flute
QUOTE(YetAnotherPianist @ Oct 2 2005, 11:31 PM)
Spot on, Sarah.
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Wooo! I learned something smile.gif
crazy_purple_piano_freak
I've always been confused about pedals. Mine (digital clavinova) only has 2 pedals, the sustain and this other one. The piano at music school has three , the middle one apparently you can press down and turn to left or something and it makes stuff quiet...is the one GCBS was talking about the one on the left then? huh.gif
another crazy pianist
No, it must have been the middle pedal.
crazy_purple_piano_freak
Oh..maybe i'll just stay confuzzled then... ph34r.gif
MattD
I've got a digi, which does the following:

Left: Soft
Middle: Sustain notes are already held down, but succeeding notes play as if no pedal is pressed
Right: Sostenuto

Guess it ain't all bad having a digi then tongue.gif
Noodelz
QUOTE(MattD @ Oct 3 2005, 08:35 PM)
I've got a digi, which does the following:

Left: Soft
Middle: Sustain notes are already held down, but succeeding notes play as if no pedal is pressed
Right: Sostenuto

Guess it ain't all bad having a digi then tongue.gif
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You've got no damper pedal(right)! Isn't it a bit difficult to play some peices?
another crazy pianist
QUOTE(MattD @ Oct 3 2005, 08:35 PM)
I've got a digi, which does the following:

Left: Soft
Middle: Sustain notes are already held down, but succeeding notes play as if no pedal is pressed
Right: Sostenuto

Guess it ain't all bad having a digi then tongue.gif
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What you have is the pedal-system of grand pianos.
Grands don't have damper pedals (middle, not right !) but they have una-corda instead. A damper pedal is only meant for studying; it's not considered useful on a "professional" piano.
Noodelz
Isn't the damper the sustain pedal?

I'll go and shut up now. ph34r.gif
another crazy pianist
No, the damper pedal (middle on upright pianos) damps the sound, the sustain pedal (right) sustains it. tongue.gif
MattD
There is a nice little slide-switch with the word 'Volume' printed above it though, so I suppose a damper pedal is kind of obselete on it tongue.gif
SteveHopwood
QUOTE(Noodelz @ Oct 3 2005, 08:35 PM)
Isn't the damper the sustain pedal?

I'll go and shut up now. ph34r.gif
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Yes it is. Different people use different terminology. To me, it is the sustaining pedal because pressing it helps to sustain the sound. To others, it is the damper pedal because letting go of it allows the dampers to fall on the strings and stop the sound.

Not sure what its 'official' name is.

Steve biggrin.gif
sania
I'm confuse, if we use the middle pedal (what is the name??) it mean that we held one chord, and then if we want to use the sustain pedal for the next notes, how can our right feet can press it together?? sorry if it is a silly question, but I need your help.. smile.gif
SteveHopwood
QUOTE(sania @ Oct 4 2005, 12:24 PM)
I'm confuse, if we use the middle pedal (what is the name??) it mean that we held one chord, and then if we want to use the sustain pedal for the next notes, how can our right feet can press it together?? sorry if it is a silly question, but I need your help.. smile.gif
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Hi sania

Use your left foot for the middle pedal.

Steve biggrin.gif
chocolatedog
Just make sure your right foot is not holding the damper down at the same time as you depress the sustain pedal otherwise ALL the lower notes will be sustained as well as the chord you're wanting!!
sania
Hi!
Thanks Steve and Chocolate dog!
Useful answer smile.gif
adelecom
I think it depends on the type of piano you have - some piano's middle piano hold on one note while others give a very muffled sound - I heard that this one is not made anymore.
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