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Classical Singing To Musical Theatre

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#1 keeponsinging


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Posted 07 March 2008 - 21:19

I am having problems with singing musical theatre!! I have has singing lessons since yr 7 and am now in sixth form. I used to do a lot of musical theatre in the earlier grades but now i am doing grade 8 and for a long time now have been doing a lot of classical and opera stuff. I am singing a musical theatre piece in my AS drama performance and am finding it really hard to sing even though the level is very low! What techniques can i use to sing it? its really frustrating because i sound really bad!!! Please help. Thanks in advance
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Posted 10 March 2008 - 11:11

As a teacher, I have to swap between the two to demonstrate.

Classically I'm Lyric-Coloratura Soprano.

Thank goodness I've got some low notes.

All the Passagi are in the same place that is because they are individual to each persons voice, however where you place your voice is completely different.

For a classical singer everything is about getting that BEL-CANTO sound, that ring from aa high soft palette and a feeling of the whole head ringing and everything hinging from there and blending through each passagio and opening and broadinig no lower than the neck, even in "chest register" which is hardly touched.

From the intitial "float" sound the aim is to "ring"

Musical theatre is different. The initial float sound should still be your aim, but placing ins much further forward. Your head voice is "in the mask" a placing that feels amost two inches further forward than your face. IF AT ANY POINT YOU CAN'T RETURN TO FLOAT THEN YOU ARE DOING IT WRONG.

You mix down into chest voice which you really feel in the chest. You never bring chest up. Every note is always places as per where your voice holds that note and you find that note on your mask.

If I look through my diary and know I'm singing Belt and Mix, I have to ease off the Classical practice a little that day and do a belt and mix warm up.

The object is to take care. At 16 you are unlikely to have working ranges of 3 octaves as your voice is not going to be that well developed. If you are naturally a Mezzo, having a go under supervision at a belt and mix style is unlikely to "ruin your Classical technique". However I waited until I was 25 before establishing both so that I wasn't likely to ruin either.

The rules Kids: Natural Voice
Teenagers Natural Voice and a bit ot either classical or Musical theatre depending what they want.
Adults: what they nee.

Oh Its so nice to look at my diary and think, great I'm teaching Panis Angelicus this evening this lies nicely on my voice. However as a teacher you do find you are practising away at the Rachmaninov Vocalise, and the next thing you do is teach "Luck be a Lady" - and I want the right style, Like Brando not Sinatra.
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Posted 10 March 2008 - 17:25

I'm sorry to hijack a thread slightly, but I've become slightly alarmed reading this... My voice, the way it sounds etc, changes when I sing musical theatre, pop music, classical... to sound the way I want it to so it fits with the genre... So I don't sing musical theatre in a classical voice etc... I belt - I don't know what mix belting is, but I do belt, and I support it in the same way I'd support my normal voice (which I'm probably not articulate enough to explain etc).

Thing is I mostly sing classical music with my teacher - I'm not sure she's heard me singing anything else, and having read this thread I've become worried that by switching like this I might have done my voice some damage... I've never been trained to switch, or to belt it's just something I do... how can I make sure I'm not hurting myself?

Also, what is mix-belting, out of interest?
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